Quick Divergence Theorem question

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The problem involves applying the divergence theorem in three dimensions to evaluate the flux of a given vector field through a specific surface, which is a hemisphere bounded by a spherical surface and the x-y plane. The vector field is defined as V = (3x-2y)i + x^4zj + (1-2z)k.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the divergence of the vector field and integrate it over the volume of the hemisphere using spherical polar coordinates. They express uncertainty about the hint suggesting that direct evaluation of the flux may not be the easiest approach.
  • Some participants clarify the distinction between divergence and flux, questioning whether the calculations performed correspond to flux density or actual flux.
  • Others express confusion regarding the terminology of flux versus flux density and seek to clarify their understanding of these concepts.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing clarifications and expressing their confusion about the concepts involved. There is no explicit consensus on the correct interpretation of the calculations, and participants are exploring different aspects of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential for confusion between terms such as flux and flux density, as well as the implications of the divergence theorem in their calculations. There is a reference to lecture notes that discuss the relationship between divergence and flux density.

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Homework Statement


Use the divergence theorem in three dimensions

\int\int\int\nabla\bullet V d\tau= \int \int V \bullet n d \sigma

to evaluate the flux of the vector field

V= (3x-2y)i + x4zj + (1-2z)k

through the hemisphere bounded by the spherical surface x2+y2+z2=a2 (for z>0) and the x-y plane

Hint: The direct evauation of the flux may not be the easiest way to proceed

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The Attempt at a Solution


I found it pretty simple which means I probably messed up (and I'm not sure what the hint is talking about
ok so the divergence is
\nabla \bullet V = 3-2=1

and the integral over the volume of the hemisphere (using spherical polar coordinates) is
\int_{0}^a r^2 d \tau \int_{0}^{2\pi} d\phi \int_{0}^{\pi/2} sin\theta d\theta = \frac{2\pi a^3}{3}

So am I doing it completely wrong? I don't know the answer but if anyone could look through it and spot anything I would really appreciate it
 
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Hi Stef42! :smile:

(have a del: ∇ and a theta: θ and a phi: φ and a sigma: σ and use \cdot instead of \bullet :wink:)
Stef42 said:
Use the divergence theorem in three dimensions

\int\int\int\nabla\bullet V d\tau= \int \int V \bullet n d \sigma

to evaluate the flux of the vector field

Hint: The direct evauation of the flux may not be the easiest way to proceed

I found it pretty simple which means I probably messed up (and I'm not sure what the hint is talking about

Looks fine to me …

I think the hint just means don't use V.n, which is the flux, use ∇.V … though that's a bit unnecessary since they've already told you to :rolleyes:
 
thanks for the speedy response tiny-tim :-)
Ok so just to clear up:
∇.V= divergence of vector field V
V.n= flux
So then the sigma integral is flux density ?
So what did I calculate? flux density aswell? wasn't I supposed to find the flux? :confused:
 
Stef42 said:
So what did I calculate? flux density aswell? wasn't I supposed to find the flux? :confused:

oooh, I get confused between flux and flux density …

anyway, V.n is definitely fluxy, and ∇.V definitely isn't :wink:
 
well, at least I'm not the only one who gets confused, damn vector calculus :frown:
well from my lectures notes:
"The divergence represents the flux density of the vector field and, because of the derivative operation, has an associated Fundamental Theorem of Calculus called the divergence theorem : (quotes equation)"

hmm think I'll go talk to him tomorrow :)
 

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