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  • #691
fresh_42 said:
Bad language and offensive words are hard to translate. Their severity gets lost or added, depending on the case. So can someone describe to me how severe it is if someone calls someone else a **** (a four-letter word beginning with a "j")? Is it jovial, an insult in any case, an everyday word, how severe is it?
I'd place it at around 4 out of 10 for severity. @fresh_42 : You could say it safely within 90%+ of the population.
 
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  • #692
WWGD said:
I'd place it at around 4 out of 10 for severity. @fresh_42 : You could say it safely within 90%+ of the population.
Here in the USA, calling someone a 'Jerk' generally implies that the accused lacks in both rational thinking and knowledge.

The most likely reactions are: raised voices, the accused leaves the situation and avoids you in the future, or somewhat strenuous physical contact occurs.

The accusation is generally serious enough that even after apoligizing, the two of you are not likely to have a serious conversation.

A somewhat 'softer' wording would be "Don't act like a jerk." That, at least, doesn't directly impugn their personality.

Accusing someone of actually being a Jerk, I would rate a 6 or 7 out of 10 for severity.

That's my take anyhow.

[edit] follow-up post at: https://www.physicsforums.com/posts/7095320 [/edit]

Cheers,
Tom
 
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  • #693
Starting to grow fond of Excel. It feels incredinly productive to see a spreadsheet grow with your data.

What have I become?
 
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  • #694
Mayhem said:
Starting to grow fond of Excel. It feels incredinly productive to see a spreadsheet grow with your data.

What have I become?
I didn't like Excel when I first started using it (being a LOTUS123 man myself). But after awhile, yes, yes, it is an amazing tool.

I once checked a co-workers analysis results. He spent a couple weeks writing a PERL script to do the calculations; I spent two days writing an Excel sheet that gave identical results. He was shocked.
 
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  • #695
gmax137 said:
I didn't like Excel when I first started using it (being a LOTUS123 man myself). But after awhile, yes, yes, it is an amazing tool.

I once checked a co-workers analysis results. He spent a couple weeks writing a PERL script to do the calculations; I spent two days writing an Excel sheet that gave identical results. He was shocked.
I always felt like it takes two days to get the result, but two weeks to make it fancy (diagrams of various types, scroll-down menus, and other filters, coloring, sizing, and other formatting, hiding columns and rows, and things like that). Probably a matter of training.
 
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  • #696
'Spy mania': Why is Russia accusing its own physicists of treason?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/spy-mania-why-russia-accusing-234523979.html

Scientists are still expected to publish internationally and collaborate with foreign colleagues, "meanwhile, the FSB thinks contact with foreign scientists and writing for foreign journals is a betrayal of the Motherland", they say.

The ITAM scientists feel the same. "We just don't understand how to continue doing our job," their open letter said.

"What we are rewarded for today… tomorrow becomes the reason for criminal prosecution."

They warn that scientists are afraid to engage in some areas of research, while talented young employees are leaving science.
 
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  • #697
Astronuc said:
'Spy mania': Why is Russia accusing its own physicists of treason?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/spy-mania-why-russia-accusing-234523979.html
We should not point our fingers at Russia! This is too cheap these days. I do not want to excuse it, but maybe we (the west) have our own problems which we should deal with first:
Following the severe earthquake in Abruzzo, a court sentenced seven seismologists to years in prison.
https://www.fr.de/panorama/experten-urteil-ueberrascht-11358728.html

Not sure whether they finally had to go to prison, but the court rule existed.

So, yes, it is ridiculous to read that about the FSB. And about Italy.
 
  • #698
fresh_42 said:
Not sure whether they finally had to go to prison, but the court rule existed.
Mostly thrown out - https://www.science.org/content/art...fficial-cleared-manslaughter-earthquake-trial

That hugely controversial trial resulted in convictions and 6-year jail sentences for all seven scientists, but six of those convictions were overturned on appeal and then definitively quashed by Italy's supreme court last November. Only De Bernardinis had his conviction confirmed, albeit with a lesser 2-year sentence, which will remain suspended.
 
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  • #699
Borg said:
Yes, but the sentiment is similar: politics clashes with science. I do not want to justify Russian politics, au contraire, however, considering the war crimes Russia commits day by day, this seems to be a minor issue to me. It is not very surprising that every attempt to justify what cannot be justified, or to pretend normality where there isn't, results in logical contradictions. We know since Galileo that authorities and science don't match. An autocracy is an autocracy, clerical or secular.
 
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  • #700
I was only answering the question that I quoted. Not going to get into the politics here. :wink:
 
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  • #701
I was searching for the name of an American sitcom. I didn't even remember its German title, let alone the original one. Then I thought about how I could find it on imdb.com remembering almost nothing. Well, I started with "Ghost Whisperer" and ended with "Unhappily Ever After", which was the answer I was looking for.

Can anybody follow that association chain of length 4 or am I ripe for one of those jackets that zips up at the back.?
 
  • #702
fresh_42 said:
Can anybody follow that association chain of length 4 or am I ripe for one of those jackets that zips up at the back.?
Shorter chains won't swing; use the loonnnggg ones, always...you/I got lots of memory to manage.
 
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  • #703
Bystander said:
Shorter chains won't swing; use the loonnnggg ones, always...you/I got lots of memory to manage.
The sad thing about that chain was that it came down to a very, very basic instinct. (Hint: the last word of my previous sentence contains all letters that are necessary to describe it. And they definitely swing!)
 
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  • #704
fresh_42 said:
The sad thing about that chain was that it came down to a very, very basic instinct. (Hint: the last word of my previous sentence contains all letters that are necessary to describe it. And they definitely swing!)
Been managing my movie/history/military trivia; tie Michael Berryman to Vincent Schiavelli to ....
 
  • #705
Bystander said:
Been managing my movie/history/military trivia; tie Michael Berryman to Vincent Schiavelli to ....
My chain was Ghost Whisperer > Jay Mohr > Nikki Cox > Unhappily Ever After.
(champ of useless knowledge)
 
  • #706
Follow-up.
Tom.G said:
Here in the USA, calling someone a 'Jerk' generally implies that the accused lacks in both rational thinking and knowledge.

The most likely reactions are: raised voices, the accused leaves the situation and avoids you in the future, or somewhat strenuous physical contact occurs.

The accusation is generally serious enough that even after apoligizing, the two of you are not likely to have a serious conversation.

A somewhat 'softer' wording would be "Don't act like a jerk." That, at least, doesn't directly impugn their personality.

Accusing someone of actually being a Jerk, I would rate a 6 or 7 out of 10 for severity.

That's my take anyhow.

Cheers,
Tom
That is a definition for a male-on-male interaction.

A "jerk" accusation could also be triggered for a male-on-female for (some would argue) a less severe interaction.

A man starts buying drinks for a woman in a bar. He runs a tab for the drinks (charges them on his local account with the bartender). Later he decides to leave alone without paying for the drinks, leaving the woman to pay-up.

Another example would be a man notices a woman that intrigues him while shopping at a local store and decides to start a conversation. By the third sentence he is inviting her over to his home.

Both of those examples would definitely qualify him as a "jerk" in most circles.

Neither would likely trigger any physical aggression but the label would be quite appropriate.

These cases I would rate a 3 or 4 out of 10 severity -- however that opinion may differ if females are rating the severity.

Cheers,
Tom
 
  • #707
This is too small to create a thread about.

How would you do an inline reference to a book in a report? I use critical values from one book and one book only (unless otherwise specified) and want to specify it in my experimental to avoid having to cite all the time. I was thinking [book title] [edition] [year] [ref], where [ref] refers to the bibliography with the full book details (authors, isbn, all that). This is just a university project, not a final thesis or article draft.
 
  • #708
Exams? Completed it mate.🫡

Officially retired from Physics. (Thank God)
 
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  • #709
gmax137 said:
I didn't like Excel when I first started using it (being a LOTUS123 man myself). But after awhile, yes, yes, it is an amazing tool.

I once checked a co-workers analysis results. He spent a couple weeks writing a PERL script to do the calculations; I spent two days writing an Excel sheet that gave identical results. He was shocked.
I was surprised to know someone who was doing an Excel ( otherwise unqualified) internship. Didn't think they existed. Didn't get a chance to speak to him beyond that. Wonder what it may have been about.
 
  • #710
Tom.G said:
Follow-up.

That is a definition for a male-on-male interaction.

A "jerk" accusation could also be triggered for a male-on-female for (some would argue) a less severe interaction.

A man starts buying drinks for a woman in a bar. He runs a tab for the drinks (charges them on his local account with the bartender). Later he decides to leave alone without paying for the drinks, leaving the woman to pay-up.

Another example would be a man notices a woman that intrigues him while shopping at a local store and decides to start a conversation. By the third sentence he is inviting her over to his home.

Both of those examples would definitely qualify him as a "jerk" in most circles.

Neither would likely trigger any physical aggression but the label would be quite appropriate.

These cases I would rate a 3 or 4 out of 10 severity -- however that opinion may differ if females are rating the severity.

Cheers,
Tom
Score will likely be inversely proportional to the ( perceived) attractiveness of the man.
 
  • #711
Weird. Took home a glass of Pepsi with ice from a meet. I let it sit for a couple of hours, then, I saw it again, it had this slightly slimy but solid pinkish , substance
somewhat of the consistency of a commercial ( i.e., not home-made) slice of turkey in the bottom of the glass, but slimier, comes appart at the touch.
20240611_235815.jpg

In the lower right. Packaging is just so I could take the pic. No idea what it could be. Google reverse images wasn't useful. Not something appealing to find in a drink. Smell is weak, hard to identify.
 
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  • #712
Don't build on unstable ground!

Part of Wyoming highway collapses in landslide, blocking crucial transit route
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/teton-...de-block-crucial-commuter-route-jackson-hole/

‼ IMPORTANT TETON PASS UPDATE ‼ Teton Pass road closure continues, interim detour plannedWYDOT Teton County closed access to Wyoming State Highway 22/ Teton Pass due to a landslide at milepost 12.8 and a mudslide at milepost 15. Commuters have been asked to detour around using US 26 through Swan Valley and then into the Snake River Canyon. WYDOT crews are currently evaluating the stability of the area and investigating adjacent areas for potential safety hazards. This is being considered an extended closure, and there currently is no estimated opening date. WYDOT crews have been working closely with other agencies and partners to secure the area and explore potential interim access, as well as long term reconstruction options. Currently, WYDOT geologists and engineers are confident they can build a safe, temporary detour around the slide area using local fill material and paving two temporary lanes. . . .
 
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  • #713
Mayhem said:
How would you do an inline reference to a book in a report? I use critical values from one book and one book only (unless otherwise specified) and want to specify it in my experimental to avoid having to cite all the time. I was thinking [book title] [edition] [year] [ref], where [ref] refers to the bibliography with the full book details (authors, isbn, all that). This is just a university project, not a final thesis or article draft.
Does this help? https://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/tools_citationguide/citation-guide-2.html
 
  • #714
Slowly but surely it is getting frightening, weird, eerie!

I thought - yes, thought! - yesterday of how difficult a mate with knight and bishop is and that I would probably offer a draw. Today, I found that in my FB feed:

 
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  • #715
Read about someone who drinks their first daily urine, on the grounds it contains healthy nutrients, cells.
 
  • #716
fresh_42 said:
Slowly but surely it is getting frightening, weird, eerie!

I thought - yes, thought! - yesterday of how difficult a mate with knight and bishop is and that I would probably offer a draw. Today, I found that in my FB feed:


You're manifesting!
 
  • #717
How could this be?
According to the Montenegrin public broadcaster RTCG, Sarkic woke up early on Saturday morning at around 6:00 a.m. and felt ill. Friends called an ambulance, but Sarkic died at around 6:30 a.m. The evening before, he had met up with friends and eaten in a restaurant.
Sarkic was 26 and a professional goalkeeper in England's second division. (Millwall, Counting EPL as first.)

And before the witch hunt starts:
https://www.eurosport.de/fussball/c...ltorhuter-noch-unklar_sto20011139/story.shtml
 
  • #718
I am a capitalist when it comes to my income and a communist when it comes to my expenses.
 
  • #719
Mayhem said:
I am a capitalist when it comes to my income and a communist when it comes to my expenses.
I know a few guys whose wives are the opposite.
 
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  • #720
Seems the cheapest and most basic " Intelligent Toilets", which chemically analyze the stool, start at $300, with higher end models going upwards of €8,000. Would be awkward if it gave the results verbally. More so if 3rd parties heard the results not knowing where they came from.
 

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