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This thread features a collection of random thoughts and reflections from participants, touching on various topics including nostalgia for a community member, humorous musings about language and technology, reactions to cultural events, and personal anecdotes. The scope includes informal commentary, light-hearted debates, and references to popular media.

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  • Some participants express nostalgia for a community member named Evo, with inquiries about her well-being.
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  • Discussion around the cultural impact of the sitcom "Friends," with varying opinions on its characters and humor.
  • References to the founding of Turkey and its implications for secularism, with some light-hearted commentary on food choices.
  • Comments on Neil DeGrasse Tyson's approach to teaching critical thinking, with mixed reactions to his style and audience engagement.
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  • #931
That girl is either very widely read, or needs either a psychologist or an IQ test!
 
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  • #932
Tom.G said:
That girl is either very widely read, or needs either a psychologist or an IQ test!
Yes , maybe she was somewhat older.
 
  • #933
I watched a documentary about Stonehenge.

Stones here, stones there, how where they transported, where from, stones everywhere. However, the only really interesting question would be how they could afford it. Where did they take energy and time from? I don't care about the stones, I want to know where they get the resources from, not the stones.

I watched a documentary about castles.

It is always about sieges, tunnels, conquering those things, weapons, and so on. Who cares? I want to know why the conquerors didn't let the castle be a heap of ugly stones and occupied the land instead. Why bother a siege? Simply ignore that thing! Why wasn't that ever a possibility?
 
  • #934
fresh_42 said:
Simply ignore that thing! Why wasn't that ever a possibility?
If you want to go past the castle, your logistical support may have to go back and forwards past it and be subject to raiding from the castle. If there are significant numbers of troops inside they may raid your army (and/or your supplies) from the rear at the same time as you are engaging somebody in front of you. Or they may simply note that you and your army are no longer between them and your country, which might be bad. And if you want to occupy the land you need to do so in sufficient numbers that your garrisons are all strong enough to make a go at resisting a raid from the castle, or small garrisons will get picked off one by one. In short, the problem isn't really the castle so much as the fact that it's a shelter for enemy armed forces.

Also, you may be after killing or capturing whatever's inside the castle. If you want to take the other guy's land you might want the citizens to work it - in which case your aim is not to kill too many of the citizens, just the armed forces in the castle. Or the king (or whoever) might be in there.

But if it's not defending anything you want right now and you aren't too worried about whatever the garrison might try, sure you can just ignore it. The Maginot Line during World War 2 is a modern example of doing just that - both sides largely just went round it in their offensives.
 
  • #935
It doesn't cost a lot of troops to control breakouts through at most two openings and often surrounded by a moat. I simply change the aim of a siege with significantly fewer men and command the rest of them to deal with landlords where food and money are generated. It makes no sense to concentrate on locations that are basically already prisons.
 
  • #937
Don't know much about 1066, about William the Conqueror? Ill bayeux a tapestry.
 
  • #938
The Bayeux Tapestry is not a tapestry.

It's an embroidery.
 
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  • #939
DrGreg said:
The Bayeux Tapestry is not a tapestry.

It's an embroidery.
Ill Bayeux some embroidery.
 
  • #940
My wife and I went to a cloth exhibition at the museum last week and she was surprised at how long the displays were. I told her that it really weaved through the museum. :oldtongue:
 
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  • #941
Mein Gott. I should have gone into engineering. Higher salary increase after 10 years (compared to academic chemistry) and and 1-2 years less school time.

Oh well, if I do a Ph.d it will be worth it anyway.
 
  • #942
Whenever I think about, research, or otherwise encounter historical events, facts, or discoveries, I have to think about what a German astronomer said on TV:
The people from ten thousand years ago weren't so much different from us. They have had the same capabilities and mental awareness as us. Biology didn't evolve so much during that relatively short period. All that changed is our technological evolution and our ways of sharing information.
I think we should keep this in mind.
 
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  • #943
I would say the increase in "Entropy/Mess" in a room from day to day is sublinear. If I clean on Sundays, but not on Monday, it won't be ( at least)twice as messy on Tuesday than it was on Monday. If I don't clean it on Monday nor Tuesday, it won't be 3x as dirty on Wednesday as it was on Monday, etc. It seems cleaning twice a week would minimize time/effort while keeping the room in reasonable condition.
 
  • #944
Ok, not too hard to remember: a light year is 946 trillion milles , plus 80 million miles, i.e., 946.080.000.000 a heavy year, though, I forget. I was popular in parties by remembering/memorizing that ##2^{64}=18.446.744.073.709.551.616##
 
  • #945
Kind of surprised to see this ( alleged?) problem in the entrance exam for Cambridge Math program: Find ##x## if ##8^x+ 2^x =130## . It took me all of 2 minutes to figure it out. Just use that ##8=2^3##.
 
  • #946
WWGD said:
Kind of surprised to see this ( alleged?) problem in the entrance exam for Cambridge Math program: Find ##x## if ##8^x+ 2^x =130## . It took me all of 2 minutes to figure it out. Just use that ##8=2^3##.
And how long did it take you to calculate ##\log_2 5## by hand? :cool:
 
  • #947
fresh_42 said:
And how long did it take you to calculate ##\log_2 5## by hand?
I doubt you're required to. A Taylor series would likely give you a good approximation. Since ##2^2=4; 2^3=8## , it is closer to ##2## than to ##5##. Use the derivative for a tangent line approximation.
 
  • #948
WWGD said:
I doubt you're required to. A Taylor series would likely give you a good approximation. Since ##2^2=4; 2^3=8## , it is closer to ##2## than to ##5##. Use the derivative for a tangent line approximation.
Power series can be nasty. You need half a googol steps to calculate ##\pi=4\tan^{-1}(1)## up to ##100## digits from the standard power series, and ##90## with a simple trick.
 
  • #949
fresh_42 said:
Power series can be nasty. You need half a googol steps to calculate ##\pi=4\tan^{-1}(1)## up to ##100## digits from the standard power series, and ##90## with a simple trick.
Not to compute the Taylor series for ##Log_2 x## about ##5##. Are you sure they require anything beyond Edit:##ln(5)/ln(2)##?
 
  • #951
WWGD said:
Ok, not too hard to remember: a light year is 946 trillion milles , plus 80 million miles, i.e., 946.080.000.000
I think you're off by two orders of magnitude and a unit change. I make it ##365×24×3600×3×10^8\mathrm{m}## is 9.4608 trillion kilometres, or about 5.913 trillion miles.
 
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  • #952
Ibix said:
I think you're off by two orders of magnitude and a unit change. I make it ##365×24×3600×3×10^8\mathrm{m}## is 9.4608 trillion kilometres, or about 5.913 trillion miles.
Ah, I guess I thought the speed of light was given in miles/second. I'm remembering now it is 186,000 miles/sec, not 300,000 miles/sec.
So Ill settle for 946 trillion km + 80 million Km. Then I use that 1 mile~1,609 metres. Or metres jn UK ish.
 
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  • #953
WWGD said:
Ah, I guess I thought the speed of light was given in miles/second. I'm remembering now it is 186,000 miles/sec, not 300,000 miles/sec.
So Ill settle for 946 trillion km + 80 million Km. Then I use that 1 mile~1,609 metres. Or metres jn UK ish.
As a " meta point" of sorts, these casual exchanges can be valuable. This one allowed me to correct my knowledge base.
 
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  • #954
For those difficult moments, days (A short; some 15 seconds long)
 
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  • #955
WWGD said:
So Ill settle for 946 trillion km + 80 million Km.
That's 100ly, though.

There are approximately ##\pi\times 10^7\mathrm{s}## in a year and ##c=3\times 10^8\mathrm{ms^{-1}}##, so one light year has to be approximately ##10^{16}\mathrm{m}=10^{13}\mathrm{km}##, so about ten trillion, not a thousand trillion.
 
  • #956
This source cites it as ##9.46 \times 10^{12}##km. I saw it computed in a YT short and dIdnt double-check.
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  • #957
I get dizzy. How can you talk about trillions when you are from countries that define it differently?
 
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  • #958
fresh_42 said:
I get dizzy. How can you talk about trillions when you are from countries that define it differently?
If we differed by three orders of magnitude, I'd agree. I think pretty much everybody uses the American standard now anyway. Despite it making less sense. :wink:
WWGD said:
This source cites it as ##9.46 \times 10^{12}##km. I saw it computed in a YT short and dIdnt double-check.
View attachment 349680
Oh dear...

One hour is 3600 seconds
One day is 24 hours
One year is 365 days
That makes one year 31,536,000 s

The speed of light is 300,000,000 m/s
That makes one light year 9,460,800,000,000,000 m (##9.5\times 10^{15}\mathrm{m}##), or ##9.5\times 10^{12}\mathrm{km}##.
 
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  • #959
Ibix said:
If we differed by three orders of magnitude, I'd agree.
You mean ##6## as in ##10^{12}## (US) versus ##10^{18}##?
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lange_und_kurze_Skala#Vergleich_der_Skalen
Ibix said:
I think pretty much everybody uses the American standard now anyway.
Definitely not here, and I cannot see that anyone quit using -iards.

975px-World_map_of_long_and_short_scales.svg.png


Sorry, I thought the British would have used the European standard.
 
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  • #960
fresh_42 said:
You mean ##6## as in ##10^{12}## (US) versus ##10^{18}##?
Well, any power of ##10^3## difference rings "maybe it's a mega/giga/tera mix up" alarm bells for me, but yes you're correct here.
fresh_42 said:
Sorry, I thought the British would have used the European standard.
I think the battle in English was lost long ago. The only "normal" usage of such values is financial, and that seemed to settle on the US standard when I was a kid.
 

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