Random Thoughts 7

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The discussion in the "Random Thoughts 7" thread begins with a user expressing a desire to have the first civilian post. Participants reminisce about a missing member, Evo, and share their hopes for her well-being. The conversation shifts to humorous musings about chatbots and the origins of the term "robot," followed by reflections on pop culture, including reactions to Matthew Perry's passing. There are also light-hearted anecdotes about close encounters with deer while driving and observations on the challenges of transitioning from undergraduate to graduate studies. Overall, the thread captures a mix of nostalgia, humor, and personal experiences.
  • #351
Windows 7 isn't that bad. I even think it's better than 10 and 11 with all these tons of corrections.
 
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  • #352
WWGD said:
Today's the 100th anniversary of the founding of Turkey.
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I'd celebrate with crispy bacon, mayo, lettuce, tomato.
If one want to go against the flow embrace Discordianism:

- There is no Goddess but Goddess and She is Your Goddess. There is no Erisian Movement but The Erisian Movement and it is The Erisian Movement. And every Golden Apple Corps is the beloved home of a Golden Worm.

II - A Discordian Shall Always use the Official Discordian Document Numbering System.

III - A Discordian is Required during his early Illumination to Go Off Alone & Partake Joyously of a Hot Dog on a Friday; this Devotive Ceremony to Remonstrate against the popular Paganisms of the Day: of Catholic Christendom (no meat on Friday), of Judaism (no meat of Pork), of Hindic Peoples (no meat of Beef), of Buddhists (no meat of animal), and of Discordians (no Hot Dog Buns).

IV - A Discordian shall Partake of No Hot Dog Buns, for Such was the Solace of Our Goddess when She was Confronted with The Original Snub.


V - A Discordian is Prohibited of Believing what he reads.

IT IS SO WRITTEN! SO BE IT. HAIL DISCORDIA! PROSECUTORS WILL BE TRANSGRESSICUTED.

---- https://principiadiscordia.com/book/11.php

EDIT: On linux there's still the ddate program. Example output:

sbrothy@PAULINE:~$ ddate
Today is Setting Orange, the 45th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3190

If I create accounts for people I like putting fortune and ddate in there. If for nothing else then to encourage them to configure their logon config files (like .bashrc on BASH).
 
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  • #353
dlgoff said:
I know, I know. Windows 7 is about the only thing that will run on this old machine.
That is a good point. I know several folks who maintain legacy machines running unsupported Win7, but they don't use them on the internet. They tend to isolate them, since the OS is not getting security updates.

For internet, sounds like time for an upgrade of hardware and OS. I generally use FireFox for a browser on a non-Windows machine.
 
  • #354
Astronuc said:
That is a good point. I know several folks who maintain legacy machines running unsupported Win7, but they don't use them on the internet. They tend to isolate them, since the OS is not getting security updates.

For internet, sounds like time for an upgrade of hardware and OS. I generally use FireFox for a browser on a non-Windows machine.
I can't afford an new machine. I am using FireFox though. I'm aware there are no security updates. I only use this machine for Chrome myyahoo.com email and to use here on PF.
 
  • #355
Wonder what the general public would think of doctors if they'd seen some of the exercises in Bayesian probability. If 10% of the population had a disease, and the rate of false positives was 20%, i.e., if diagnostics were 80% correct, then, if one were told by a doctor they have the disease, the probability of a false positive would be 69%.
 
  • #356
dlgoff said:
The link just takes me to a blank MSN page
Yup, welcome to the world of old geezers. That page also downloads here as a blank page... HOWEVER, if I hit Ctrl-U on the keyboard it shows about 6 pages of HTML.

I've switched to a successor to Firefox called Mypal because there were too many of the "blank page" responses in Firefox. I'm running version 28.13.0 but an update was recently released as version 28.13.1. (I'll get to it eventually).

Cheers,
Tom
 
  • #357
There are estimates for the expiration date of food. But that's before it's been open/cut( as in fruits, vegetables). Is there some sort of PDE to describe its decay _ after_ it's been opened? Wonder if @BillTre Tre would know?
 
  • #358
WWGD said:
There are estimates for the expiration date of food. But that's before it's been open/cut( as in fruits, vegetables). Is there some sort of PDE to describe its decay _ after_ it's been opened? Wonder if @BillTre Tre would know?
I would guess that this depends on the exposure to environmental fungi, usually mold, how much nutrition it contains for that fungi, usually sugar, and how much of conservation ingredients it has, usually some acid like citric acid or vinegar.
 
  • #359
Congratulations, Noriaki Kasai (51), for both world records!


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  • #360
Two passenger planes hit over 800 mph on recent flights due to strong winds. That's over 200 mph more than a typical plane ride.
https://news.yahoo.com/2-passenger-planes-hit-over-155009611.html

  • On Saturday, a Virgin Atlantic plane and a United Airlines plane reached speeds over 800 mph.
  • These are some of the highest-known recorded speeds for passenger flights.
  • Near record-breaking winds are to blame.

Cruising speed is about 550-600 mph, and a 250-200 mph tail wind gets the ground speed up to 800 mph. Nothing special here. The air speed was normal, and the aircraft were not traveling at 800 mph in the air, but with respect to ground. I've flown in airliners before where the speed was 600 to 650 mph - easy when traveling eastward with the jet stream. Sometimes, one arrives well in advance and sits on the tarmac waiting for a gate.
 
  • #361
Astronuc said:
Two passenger planes hit over 800 mph on recent flights due to strong winds. That's over 200 mph more than a typical plane ride.
https://news.yahoo.com/2-passenger-planes-hit-over-155009611.html



Cruising speed is about 550-600 mph, and a 250-200 mph tail wind gets the ground speed up to 800 mph. Nothing special here. The air speed was normal, and the aircraft were not traveling at 800 mph in the air, but with respect to ground. I've flown in airliners before where the speed was 600 to 650 mph - easy when traveling eastward with the jet stream. Sometimes, one arrives well in advance and sits on the tarmac waiting for a gate.
Not sure whether I am allowed to say this here, but I think to remember that I've heard that the global jet streams are nowadays far more to the south than they used to be. Current measurement: Paris 49°F, Moscow 16°F. This can be explained by the sine curve of the Atlantic jet stream.
 
  • #362
fresh_42 said:
Not sure whether I am allowed to say this here
What? Too climate changey?
 
  • #363
BillTre said:
What? Too climate changey?
Yes, forbidden subject. And without a reference. I saw it on tv.
 
  • #364
Wonder what the first impression of a first-time visitor to PF: a bit gory?
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  • #365
Some of these jobs one applies to require, when uploading the CV, to grant permission to the company to access the place where the file is stored. They don't tell you for how long this access permission , nor does, e.g., Google drive ask you for how long. A bit disconcerting. Why not just upload the CV and get it over with? Why the need to grant open-ended access? It's happened several times. Don't know if it has to see with my own PC settings or the application process software.
 
  • #366
I doubt that would be legal in the EU. However, fighting for your rights is another issue.
 
  • #367
fresh_42 said:
I doubt that would be legal in the EU. However, fighting for your rights is another issue.
Now I need to figure out how Google drive gives general permissions, so I don't have to go file by file to check permissions individually. Whatever happened to the simpler idea of just #@$ uploading the CV and getting it over with.
 
  • #368
WWGD said:
Some of these jobs one applies to require, when uploading the CV, to grant permission to the company to access the place where the file is stored. They don't tell you for how long this access permission , nor does, e.g., Google drive ask you for how long. A bit disconcerting. Why not just upload the CV and get it over with? Why the need to grant open-ended access? It's happened several times. Don't know if it has to see with my own PC settings or the application process software.
If they have the uploaded CV why would they even want assess to the file?
Sounds crazy to me, possibly illegal to require it.
If i were to do this, they would have to come and visit to assess my computer.
 
  • #369
BillTre said:
If they have the uploaded CV why would they even want assess to the file?
Sounds crazy to me, possibly illegal to require it.
If i were to do this, they would have to come and visit to assess my computer.
After talking witha few people , it seems you're only giving access to the file that contains your CV, not the whole of the drive, directory. It kind of makes sense. Imagine if they have an opening and 200 people apply. Each CV is, what, 10Kb ? Then they'd have to store , 2000kb( 2MB). Now repeat for several other jobs and HR will be storing maybe 1000+ CVs on its servers and maybe up to 100MB . Instead, they just keep a link to your drive or directory. Still, I wonder if a hacker could break into the rest of the files that way.
 
  • #370
WWGD said:
After talking witha few people , it seems you're only giving access to the file that contains your CV, not the whole of the drive, directory. It kind of makes sense. Imagine if they have an opening and 200 people apply. Each CV is, what, 10Kb ? Then they'd have to store , 2000kb( 2MB). Now repeat for several other jobs and HR will be storing maybe 1000+ CVs on its servers and maybe up to 100MB . Instead, they just keep a link to your drive or directory. Still, I wonder if a hacker could break into the rest of the files that way.
Lame reason in my opinion.
I have several 3 to 5 TB drives for backing up and photos.
That should not be a problem.
 
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  • #371
BillTre said:
If they have the uploaded CV why would they even want assess to the file?
Sounds crazy to me, possibly illegal to require it.
If i were to do this, they would have to come and visit to assess my computer.
After talking witha few people , it seems you're only giving access to the file that contains your CV, not the whole of the drive, directory
BillTre said:
Lame reason in my opinion.
I have several 3 to 5 TB drives for backing up and photos.
That should not be a problem.
True, though I suspect they want to avoid handing the Network adin, HR, the burden of dealing with 1000's of CVs. But I still agree, they're talking a risk on behalf of the applicants.
 
  • #372
I still run to the streets when I hear the beginning of the song " Shout".
 
  • #373
WWGD said:
I still run to the streets when I hear the beginning of the song " Shout".
And the Beach Boys implemented me a Pawlov reflex when I hear the beginning of "Sloop John B", which by the way isn't their composition.
 
  • #374
fresh_42 said:
And the Beach Boys implemented me a Pawlov reflex when I hear the beginning of "Sloop John B", which by the way isn't their composition.
Does it make you want to go home?
 
  • #375
WWGD said:
Does it make you want to go home?
If it only were that! I'm seduced to howl with the wolves.
 
  • #376
fresh_42 said:
If it only were that! I'm seduced to howl with the wolves.
So what's stopping you from doing it? Too cold outside?
 
  • #378
fresh_42 said:
Your list cleared something up. I thought the name of the band was " Black guy Pees", not " Black-eyed peas". Thanks.
I wasn't familiar with that Anastacia.
 
  • #379
Living in the Twilight Zone? I see and stop someone about to change the light bulb in a lamp, without unplugging it . She asked me, why, what's wrong? A third person looks at their phone and days " True, I just looked it up on ChatGpt". I know these people, they're not dumb people. I thought everyone above 10 years of age knew that.
 
  • #380
Mis-read of the day: lactose.
You know, the one with the crocodile-logo... :doh:
 
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  • #381
Rive said:
Mis-read of the day: lactose.
You know, the one with the crocodile-logo... :doh:
I lactose because a crocodile bit them off?
 
  • #382
Ibix said:
I lactose because a crocodile bit them off?
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  • #384
Wonder if this site is legal:
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  • #385
WWGD said:
Wonder if this site is legal:
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"unpaywall.org" is an extension for Chrome available on Google's webstore.

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Imagine what you could gain in a lawsuit against Google! Can't therefore be too illegal.
 
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  • #386
WWGD said:
Wonder if this site is legal:
There may be shady instances in those archives, but I think that one is basically just a specialized search engine.

What's more bothering for me is that whether paywalling a free resource just 'from the internet' is illegal or not :doh:
 
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  • #388
Rive said:
There may be shady instances in those archives, but I think that one is basically just a specialized search engine.

What's more bothering for me is that whether paywalling a free resource just 'from the internet' is illegal or not :doh:
Ask Aaron Swarz.
 
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  • #389
BillTre said:

As sad (that people ignore this fact) as (it is) true. If I had a garden, it would look like ...

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... probably even more chaotic since my sowing would look like ...

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  • #390
Sure, if you have a personal gardener or a few free hours a day to maintain it. I'm all for urban living, at most hydroponic.
 
  • #391
WWGD said:
Sure, if you have a personal gardener or a few free hours a day to maintain it. I'm all for urban living, at most hydroponic.
Growing it wild is less work to do than mowing the lawn.
 
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  • #392
fresh_42 said:
Growing it wild is less work to do than mowing the lawn.
Still more work than living in a building and not doing it. But still likely a few hours per week. Edit: Don't get me wrong, some like it and find it relaxing. I do too for housecleaning. But doing both is more than I'd choose.
 
  • #393
Sorry, didn't mean to be argumentative here, just that the work does add up.
 
  • #394
WWGD said:
Sure, if you have a personal gardener or a few free hours a day to maintain it.
For a garden to grow that way, the trick is actually the less maintenance... :wink:
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We just avoid any mowing till mid-may, when the bumblebees and mason bees most active.

Ps.: and even after that we skip many of that 'maintenance'.
 
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  • #395
For the gardens I have used for growing veggies it is easy to set-up an automated watering system. Once set-up no real labor.
To counteract insect pests, I set an aquarium on end near the garden. Insectivorous wasps would build nests in the sheltered out of the rain space and patrol my plants for prey. No labor and they were not interested in stinging me.
 
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  • #396
BillTre said:
For the gardens I have used for growing veggies it is easy to set-up an automated watering system. Once set-up no real labor.
To counteract insect pests, I set an aquarium on end near the garden. Insectivorous wasps would build nests in the sheltered out of the rain space and patrol my plants for prey. No labor and they were not interested in stinging me.
Is Ecology/Biology an exception to Sparsity of Effects, i.e., where there are significant interactions of 3+ factors?
 
  • #397
WWGD said:
Is Ecology/Biology an exception to Sparsity of Effects, i.e., where there are significant interactions of 3+ factors?
i don't know what this means. Please explain.
 
  • #398
My politically opposite sister texted me a political wikipage address yesterday and asked me what I thought about it. I looked and pointed out that the last sentence of the article said that the political goal of the subject of the article never happened. She said it was happening now. So I did some independent research and pointed out where she was wrong. She then told me the subject matter I picked wasn't in the article. I said it was.

The interesting part came about 12 hours later when someone altered the wiki page and removed everything I had based my argument on, claiming it wasn't in the original article back in 1966.

My sister and I went back and forth a bit and then she started texting like some kind of grammatically broken robot;

"Me that wrote this part"
"Me wrote this part"

So I grabbed my phone and called her and it turned out her Facebook account had not been hacked and she was not coordinating with anyone to alter the wiki page we were discussing, and she DID post those somewhat foreign sounding "Me that wrote this part" messages.

Another interesting thing about the article is that although it's currently only about 600 words long, it has been revised over 500 times since 2008 when it was created.
 
  • #399
BillTre said:
i don't know what this means. Please explain.
Hi, sure. In analyzing experiments, it's assumed that interactions between different factors are statistically insignificant between three-or-more factors.
From the

Individual factors may be significant, i.e., produce a noticeable effect on the ( value of the) dependent variable. Then we consider the interaction effect between pairs, triplets, quadruplets ( 4-ples) of factors on the dependent variable.

We may do a regression ,
Y=a1*x1+a2*x2+...+an*xn+ [ b1*x1x2 + b2*x1x3+...+]+ [c1*x1x2x3+...]+..+[k1*x1x2...xn]
where Y is the dependent variable , x1,x2,.., xn are the independent variables, and ai*xi denotes the effect of the variable xi, etc.and the term bj*xixj denotes/describe the effect of the interaction between the variables xi, xj in our regression, and cj*xixkxm is the term for the interaction of the independent variables xi,xk, xm. Interactions between triplets- or- higher of effects are assumed not to have much effect on the dependent variable.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparsity-of-effects_principle
 
  • #400
Best thing about the Internet:
It gives everyone a voice.
Worse thing about the Internet:
It gives everyone a voice.
 
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