Random Thoughts Part 5: Time to Split Again

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The thread features a variety of informal discussions, including personal anecdotes, reflections on dreams, cultural comparisons regarding education systems, and thoughts on numerical scales. Participants share their experiences and opinions on topics ranging from literature and dreams to educational standards in the US and UK.

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  • Some participants share personal dreams involving a community member, Borek, and discuss interpretations of these dreams.
  • There is a discussion about the differences between the long and short scales of numerical values, particularly regarding the term "billion" and its usage in different cultures.
  • Participants express differing views on the quality of higher education in the US compared to the UK, with some asserting that American high school courses can be equivalent to university-level courses.
  • One participant mentions their experience with Advanced Placement (AP) courses in the US, arguing against the notion that American education is "dumbed down."
  • Another participant shares their experience with the discomfort of playing guitar after a long break, tying it into a creative project related to fish.

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Participants express a range of opinions on educational standards, with no clear consensus on whether American education is comparable to British education. The discussion on numerical scales also reveals differing interpretations and understandings among participants.

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Some statements regarding educational comparisons may depend on personal experiences and regional differences in curriculum. The discussion on numerical scales highlights potential confusion stemming from varying definitions and terminologies used in different countries.

  • #391
Psinter said:
I'm not so sure. It is a noun, but I am also describing them. A nounjective? :confused: Ignore that, now I'm just inventing things.
Consider:

Conan The Destroyer

or

Conan The Destructive

The first uses a noun, the second, an adjective. They both work, but they're just not the same part of speech.
 
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  • #392
zoobyshoe said:
Consider:

Conan The Destroyer

or

Conan The Destructive

The first uses a noun, the second, an adjective. They both work, but they're just not the same part of speech.
I disagree. Both are nouns and adjectives at the same time. Because when I ask myself: What is Conan? I can reply: A destroyer. || A destructive person.

EDIT: I think.

EDIT2: The noun-adjective duality. :oldlaugh:
 
  • #393
Psinter said:
I disagree. Both are nouns and adjectives at the same time. Because when I ask myself: What is Conan? I can reply: A destroyer. || A destructive person.

EDIT: I think.
In the first case you have two nouns: he is both 1.)Conan, and, 2.)the destroyer. In the second case, the two nouns are: 1.)Conan, and, 2.)a person. "Destructive" is an adjective modifying "person".

Your original thing, "Mentor The Impact" would be like "Conan The Destroyer," referring to someone by two nouns.
 
  • #394
I agree with Zooby on the Destroyer/Destructive point, but you can use Impactor as a noun. I've heard the dinosaur killing asteroid described as an impactor. Not sure if that's what fresh meant.
 
  • #395
Ibix said:
I agree with Zooby on the Destroyer/Destructive point,...
Everybody does.
... but you can use Impactor as a noun. I've heard the dinosaur killing asteroid described as an impactor. Not sure if that's what fresh meant.
Yes, as a passive Latin form. In German the word is usually used for objects in space crushing into another, e.g. the Japanese copper cube they shot on a comet. As it's so close to the English 'impact' I thought I could make this pun.
 
  • #396
zoobyshoe said:
In the first case you have two nouns: he is both 1.)Conan, and, 2.)the destroyer. In the second case, the two nouns are: 1.)Conan, and, 2.)a person. "Destructive" is an adjective modifying "person".

Your original thing, "Mentor The Impact" would be like "Conan The Destroyer," referring to someone by two nouns.
I got to be honest, I don't get it. I still think its an adjective.

*1 minute later* The only way I can make sense of it is if I put: The Destroyer and The Destructive alone. Without the first noun (Conan). Only then I can say the first is a noun and the second an adjective. But reality is that they are not alone, and that's why I insist. :smile:
Ibix said:
but you can use Impactor as a noun.
No! I want The Impact! :H

I'm just kidding with you Ibix.
 
  • #397
Ibix said:
I agree with Zooby on the Destroyer/Destructive point, but you can use Impactor as a noun. I've heard the dinosaur killing asteroid described as an impactor. Not sure if that's what fresh meant.
"The Impactor" would be much better than "The Impact," yes. I was pondering why the latter sounds so awkward when applied to a person and haven't sorted it out yet.
 
  • #398
Psinter said:
The Destructive
... is an adjective made into and used as a noun.
 
  • #399
Have you heard about this new method of American science?
Correction, the church is using it, too.
 
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  • #400
Psinter said:
I got to be honest, I don't get it. I still think its an adjective.

*1 minute later* The only way I can make sense of it is if I put: The Destroyer and The Destructive alone. Without the first noun (Conan). Only then I can say the first is a noun and the second an adjective. But reality is that they are not alone, and that's why I insist. :smile:
"Destroyer" is a noun simply by virtue of being the name of a person, place, or thing. It can be used as the subject of a sentence: "The destroyer went out and destroyed stuff today."
 
  • #401
fresh_42 said:
... is an adjective made into and used as a noun.
Not really. The noun it modifies has just been dropped, but is still implied. You can do that in some contexts.
 
  • #402
I give up. I still don't get it. But once again English is not my first language. Even then I stay with The Impact whatever grammatical context it has.
 
  • #403
fresh_42 said:
Have you heard about this new method of American science?
Correction, the church is using it, too.
Disappointing, but I guess this sort of thing is inevitable when a scientific finding has political implications.
 
  • #404
Psinter said:
I give up. I still don't get it. But once again English is not my first language. Even then I stay with The Impact whatever grammatical context it has.
What is your first language?
 
  • #405
zoobyshoe said:
Not really. The noun it modifies has just been dropped, but is still implied. You can do that in some contexts.
All right. That might be a difference. I have to think about it. When a noun is stripped and we only refer to the left adjective, e.g. the first, we write it with a cap making it into a noun just as in 'the Japanese'.
 
  • #406
fresh_42 said:
Have you heard about this new method of American science?
Correction, the church is using it, too.
Embarrassing, yes. :oops:

But fortunately the article is referring to a vote that happened over a year ago. Hopefully, the US Senate has learned a few things within the last year.
 
  • #407
zoobyshoe said:
Disappointing, but I guess this sort of thing is inevitable when a scientific finding has political implications.
Probably. But it's not the fact that they disregarded science. Well, that isn't smart, but as you said to some extent inevitable. However, that they voted upon it makes me laugh.
 
  • #408
zoobyshoe said:
What is your first language?
You promise you won't be racist if I tell you? :oops:
 
  • #409
Psinter said:
You promise you won't be racist if I tell you? :oops:
The only reason I asked is because I have formally studied French, Spanish, German, and Russian. If one of those was your native language I could probably help you get what I'm talking about. If one of those isn't your native language, then I couldn't help by that means, so there's no point in your saying what it is if it makes you uncomfortable.
 
  • #410
zoobyshoe said:
The only reason I asked is because I have formally studied French, Spanish, German, and Russian. If one of those was your native language I could probably help you get what I'm talking about. If one of those isn't your native language, then I couldn't help by that means, so there's no point in your saying what it is if it makes you uncomfortable.
I believe you. :smile: But others may be racist. :sorry: I better keep my location and identity hidden. Except from mentors and admins... my location is inherently available to them since I use the website. :eek: :biggrin:
 
  • #411
Psinter said:
I believe you. :smile: But others may be racist. :sorry:
That's ok, but I truly hope you're wrong. Science and prejudices or ideologies don't fit very well.
 
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  • #412
:partytime: PF just added so many cool icons.:approve:
Except this big nose:smell: that looks more like a rocket or old spaceship.
 
  • #413
Silicon Waffle said:
:partytime: PF just added so many cool icons.:approve:
Except this big nose:smell: that looks more like a rocket or old spaceship.
http://www.pinkraygun.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/pink-raygun-shuttle2.jpg
 
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  • #414
fresh_42 said:
http://www.pinkraygun.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/pink-raygun-shuttle2.jpg

:iseewhatyoudid:
 
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  • #415
fresh_42 said:
http://www.pinkraygun.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/pink-raygun-shuttle2.jpg

Maybe it's an issue with one's color vision or either the video or the image has been edited before, it couldn't be that pink.
 
  • #416
Silicon Waffle said:
Maybe it's an issue with one's color vision or either the video or the image has been edited before, it couldn't be that pink.
I know. That's the brave new world: Google find's you something on any search regardless how stupid it is (has been my forth entry on image search).
 
  • #417
fresh_42 said:
Probably. But it's not the fact that they disregarded science. Well, that isn't smart, but as you said to some extent inevitable. However, that they voted upon it makes me laugh.
They must please their donors from industry.
 
  • #418
Can anyone look at the following; Waw wave mission on plannets eags lol n.a.s.a see eags stars lol

and make a guess as to what it means in Tunisian Arabic?
I'm pretty sure the blue words are English.

My best guess so far is; And in missions looking for planets, I recommend NASA look at the night stars.
 
  • #419
OmCheeto said:
Can anyone look at the following; Waw wave mission on plannets eags lol n.a.s.a see eags stars lol

and make a guess as to what it means in Tunisian Arabic?
I'm pretty sure the blue words are English.

My best guess so far is; And in missions looking for planets, I recommend NASA look at the night stars.
No idea about Tunisian Arabic, but Om, I bought a car a week ago. As part of the process the sales guy showed me how to link my phone to the car. I have no idea why I might need this particular feature.

For some reason my car immediately decided to call you. I don't think the call went through -- I was laughing hysterically saying, "no my car shouldn't call Om!" and the sales guy was certain I was nuts and was probably wondering if the check would bounce -- but if you got a call from a Subaru...yeah that was me.

Makes up for the time your butt called me.
 
  • #420
WWGD said:
They must please their donors from industry.
a.k.a , "What has the future ever done for me ?"
 

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