Random Walks: Understanding Probability and First Visits to a Specific Location

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The discussion revolves around a probability problem involving a random walker on a finite set of states {0, 1, 2}. The original poster is attempting to understand the relationship between the probabilities of first visits to a specific state and the state of the walker after a certain number of steps.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to explain the relationship between the probabilities pk (steps until the first visit to state 1) and qk (probability of being in state 1 after k steps). Some participants suggest using Markov chain concepts and transition matrices to analyze the problem.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different methods to approach the problem, including drawing diagrams and formulating transition matrices. There is an ongoing exchange of hints and suggestions, but no consensus or resolution has been reached yet.

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The original poster is preparing for an upcoming probability exam and is seeking clarification on specific aspects of the problem. There is an indication that the problem may involve conditioning on initial states and the implications of transitions between states.

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Homework Statement



I'm trying to revise for a probability exam in a few weeks and still getting really confused :( so I'd be really grateful for a push in the right direction:

Consider a random walker on f0; 1; 2g who moves as follows:
- if at 0, probability 1/2 of staying at 0 and 1/2 of moving to 1;
- if at 1, probability 1/2 of moving to 0 and 1/2 of moving to 2;
- if at 2, probability 1/2 of moving to 1 and 1/2 of staying at 2.

Let the location of the random walker after k steps be Xk. Let X0 = 0.

(a) Let N be the number of steps until the first visit to 1. Consider
pk = P(N = k) and qk = P(Xk = 1).

(i) Explain why pk \geq qk for all k > 0.
(ii) Calculate pk and qk for all k \geq 0. (Hint: show qk+1 = 1/2(1-qk)

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The Attempt at a Solution



i) It is asking me to explain why the probability that the walker takes k steps until the 1st visit to is less than or equal to the probability that the kth location of the walker is 1.

If the walker takesk steps until the 1st visit to 1 then his kth location is 1?

ii) I think I need to condition on something, I think the 1st step?

P(N=k | X0=0) = P(N=k| X0 = 0 and X1=0)P(X1=0) + P(N=k| X0 = 0 and X1=1)P(X1=1)
gives me pk = 1/2 pk + 1/2 pk+1

P(Xk=1| X0=0) = P(Xk=1 | X0=0 and X1=0)P(X1=0) + P(Xk=1 | X0=0 and X1=1)P(X1=1)
gives qk = 1/2 qk+1 + 1/2 I think

This is not what I had to show?! Once I have the recurrence relations I think I can solve them.

Thanks :)
 
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this looks like a simple markov chain problem, as the probability of the next state is only dependent on the last state... are you working with Markov chains?

to get started, first draw a diagram, showing the 3 states & transistion probabilities between each

now how turning that into a 3x3 matrix, P, whose entries are conditional probabilities p_ij, with:
p_{ij} = P[X_n = x_i |X_{n-1} = x_j]
ie. p_ij = the probability if you start in state x_j, at the next step you will be in state x_i
 
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though thinking about it the transition matrix is useful & may be needed for part ii), but i think you can get through part i) with just a bit of thought... though if you do ii) first, i) falls out...

First hints for p_k... the probability for being in position 1 for the first time, at step k, will just be the multiplied probabilities of a transition out of zero at each time step, which should be relatively straightforward to write down...
 
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now for q_k... if you are in position 1 at step k-1, there is zero probability to be in pos 1 at the next step, whilst if you are in the others spots (0 or 2), then there is a probability of 1/2 to be at 1 in the next step...

now compare that with the probability to jump from 0 to 1 at each step for p_k...

if its still not making sense try writing down the matrix i suggested...
 
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