Rate of change (surface area/radius)

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The problem involves finding the rate of change of the surface area of a spherical balloon with respect to its radius. The original poster has successfully solved part (a) of the question but is struggling with part (b), which requires relating the surface area to the radius given a specific surface area value.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the formula for the surface area of a sphere and calculates the derivative for part (a). For part (b), they express uncertainty about how to relate the given surface area back to the radius and seek clarification on their approach.

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Participants have provided guidance on how to approach part (b) by suggesting the need to solve for the radius from the surface area equation. Some participants have referenced additional resources, while others have reiterated the importance of correctly applying the derivative once the radius is determined. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between surface area and radius.

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The original poster mentions constraints related to their ability to view external resources and expresses confusion about specific steps in their calculations, particularly regarding the multiplication factor in their approach.

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I am 99% positive I did a) correctly, as the answer is correct according to the answer in the back of my textbook. However, I cannot do b).
The question: A spherical balloon is being inflated. Find the rate of change of the surface area with respect to the radius when:

a) The radius is 5cm
b) The surface area is 200cm2

The attempt at a solution

a) 8\pi*5cm
=125.66 cm2/cm (or 40\pi cm2/cm)

b) I am unsure of what to do for this. Is it something like:

\sqrt{}200/4\pi

=3.9894

And then do something else, which I don't know what that is.

The answer to this question, according to the book, is 100.27cm2/cm

Sorry if the equations don't look very clear. This is my first post and I will learn how to write it all up neatly when I am not so tired.
 
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Since you have solved the first part, I assume that you have worked our that

\frac{dS}{dr} = 8\pi r\;.

Now, what you need to ask yourself if: "How is the radius related to the surface area?". :wink:
 
There's an excellent video here:
http://press.princeton.edu/video/banner/

which, I think, should give you what you need to know. It's 50 minutes into video 5, and you shouldn't need to watch any of the others in order to follow the explanation (although they are all a good intuitive primer to calculus). Professor Banner covers related rates problems for about 20 minutes, and it should address your question.
 
I presume you know that the surface area of a sphere of radius r is A= 4\pi r^2. That gives, of course, dA/dr= 8\pi r which is where you got "8π*5cm" for (a).

For (b), instead of being given r, you are given A= 200. Solve 4\pi r^2= 200 for r, then do it the same as (a).
 
Unfortunately I won't be able to view the video as it will take a while to download and I've got to get going to school for an excursion. Thank you though.

So if I try:

200*4pi

= 2513.27

Get the square root of that makes 50.1325

Multiple by 2 for some reason? Makes 100.265. Rounded off gives 100.27. I am pretty sure I tried this method before, however I got 100.29 (rounding error) and I forgot how I did it all. Nevertheless, I don't really understand why I must multiple my answer by 2.
Thanks for all your help so far.
 
321study said:
So if I try:
200*4pi
= 2513.27
Get the square root of that makes 50.1325

Try to solve for r again. Look at the equation 4\pi r^2= 200, make sure you're correctly solving for r. Then, once you have r, you can use your derivative equation to get the answer.
 
Ok I did it.

Here is my working:

4\pir2 = 200
r2 = 200/4\pi
r = Square root of 50/\pi

dS/dr = 8\pir
= 8\piSquare root of 50/\pi
= 100.27 cm2/cm

Thanks everyone for all your help :smile:
 

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