Re-conditioning of Transformer oil

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The discussion revolves around the procedures and considerations for reconditioning transformer oil, focusing on methods, equipment, and the feasibility of performing such tasks either independently or through specialized services. It encompasses both practical applications and technical insights related to transformer maintenance.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest consulting the manufacturer for specific reconditioning methods, which may include filtration, heating under vacuum, and centrifuge separation.
  • Others mention that specialized companies exist for transformer oil reconditioning, indicating that the necessary equipment may not be practical for individual users.
  • One participant shares a detailed list of services offered by a company, including various vacuum and filtration techniques for oil purification.
  • Another participant recounts experiences with clients who did not own the necessary equipment for oil reconditioning and instead hired contractors for the task.
  • There is a suggestion to seek local transformer winding houses that may have the required equipment and expertise for oil reconditioning.
  • One participant argues that regular transformer oil treatment can be performed by ordinary users, claiming it is cost-effective and has been successful for many customers.
  • Another participant questions the cost and components of oil reconditioning systems, emphasizing the ease and efficiency of professional services for smaller operations.
  • A later reply discusses the pricing and features of oil purification systems, highlighting their design for simplicity and the option for on-site training.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether transformer oil reconditioning can be effectively performed by ordinary users or if it requires specialized services and equipment. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the practicality and safety of DIY approaches versus professional services.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that older transformers may contain toxic oils requiring special handling, which adds complexity to the reconditioning process. Additionally, there are varying opinions on the necessary equipment and expertise for effective oil reconditioning.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for professionals in electrical engineering, maintenance personnel for transformers, and individuals interested in the practical aspects of transformer oil management and reconditioning.

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What is the procedure to recondition the mineral oil used in transformer so that it become useable again. Any helpful link or...
Thanks
 
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You should see if you can find information from the manufacturer. Depending on application, filtration might be recommended, heating under vacuum, separation in a centrifuge, or perhaps a combination of these.
 
There are companies that specialize in reconditioning transformer oil.
Contact you power company and see if they will recommend someone.

Reconditioning transformer oil requires equipment and techniques such that it is not practical for the ordinary transformer user to reconditioning their own oil.
 
turbo-1 said:
You should see if you can find information from the manufacturer. Depending on application, filtration might be recommended, heating under vacuum, separation in a centrifuge, or perhaps a combination of these.
I didn't realize how many things needs to be considered when reconditioning transformer oil. And as Carl Pugh mentions,
There are companies that specialize in reconditioning transformer oil.
Here are the services http://www.swelectric.com/onsite_oil.aspx" provide:
* Vacuum Filling of new units or existing units
* Vacuum Dehydration by multiple passes through Heat/Vacuum
* Vacuum Dehydration by Hot Oil Splash with Cold Trap moisture monitoring
* Vacuum Degassificaiton by multiple passes through Heat/Vacuum
* Hot Oil Cleaning/Reclamation by utilizing Fuller’s Earth filtering medium
* On-line/Energized processing to remove H20, Gases and Oxidation By-products such as Acids and Sludges that will destroy the cellulosic insulation in your unit
* Dehydration and Degassification of Silcone Fluid
* Dehydration and Degassification and Hot Oil Cleaning of R-temp Fluid
* Vacuum filling, Dehydration, Degassification and Hot Oil Cleaning of FR-3 Fluid
 
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Yeah, dlgoff, treatment and reclamation can be complex and expensive. I had a number of pulp mills as clients, and they all had Kraft chemical recovery boilers and power boilers and turbine-generator sets. They had sub-stations on site and though they had heavy power-generation equipment and very large transformers, I don't think any of them owned centrifuges, fullers-earth filters, heaters, vacuum systems etc. They hired contractors to clean up and recondition their transformer oils.
 
Hello Ottoman,

I'd look for a local magnetics or transformer winding house. You may have to look in one of the larger cities to find one.

Most of these places have equipment and oil on hand. Assuming your equipment didn't burn, than its likely just a matter of removing the old oil, baking out any moisture/solvents, and vacuum impregnating your transformer with fresh oil. As a company that deals with solvents on a day-to-day basis, they probably have a service to dispose of the waste oil.

There is one thing to be careful of. The older transformers used some truly toxic oil and it requires special handling.
 
Thanks for the reply.

got your point, but i think in common T/F which are used in stepping down voltages from 11KV to 220-440V also have oil, those oil can be easily re-conditioned in a Lab by a team of 2-3 peoples but if we talk about those T/F that step up voltages 11-KV after generation upto 500KV, those T/F need very efficient Staff to deal it.
 
This is an old discussion, however.

kleanoil001 what is the cost for your system to re-condition transformer oil?
What is included in your system? Vacuum pumps, filtration system (please describe), hoses, storage tank to hold oil from transformer, test equipment to determine quality of oil after it's processed...

What sort of help do you provide with the organization processing the oil? Instructions on using your equipment, how to properly change or process transformer oil, procedure for disposing of contaminated oil, process for determining if there are PCB's in the oil...

For only one or a few transformers, it's much easier, cheaper and quicker to have a professional re-process the transformer oil.

Disclaimer: I an not involved in any way with processing oil.
 
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Carl Pugh said:
This is an old discussion, however.kleanoil001 what is the cost for your system to re-condition transformer oil?...

Carl,thanks for your questions!

We produce and sell many kinds of oil reconditioning systems(single-stage and multi-stage vacuum) for transformer oil. The prices for our systems are from several thousand USD to tens of thousand USD, depending on the model, capacity, upgrade optionals of the particular unit.

The oil purification systems work on heating, filtration and vacuum dehydration & degassing principle. They mainly consist of 4 systems. OIL TRANSFER SYSTEM, HEATING SYSTEM, FILTRATION SYSTEM and VACUUM SYSTEM.

When on-line oil filtration is performed, storage tank will be needed nearby the transformer.

Operating & maintenance manual or video supplied with each purifier. Our oil purification systems are designed to operate with the utmost simplicity and therefore typically they do not require prior training to operate, but we can provide on-site training service at request.

If interested, please contact with me at oil.purifier.rocky@gmail.com , or visit http://www.kleanoil.com for more information about our transformer oil purification systems.
 

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