Math Induction for Real Analysis Problems: Am I on the Right Track?

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The discussion revolves around a problem related to mathematical induction in the context of real analysis. Participants are examining a solution attempt that involves manipulating an expression and checking for correctness.

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  • Participants are discussing the validity of a solution attempt and whether certain expressions can be proven. There are questions about specific steps in the manipulation of formulas and the correctness of the approach taken.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing corrections and suggestions for improvement. Some participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem and checking assumptions about the expressions involved.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the manipulation of terms and the correctness of previous steps. Participants are also addressing potential mistakes in calculations and the need for clarification on specific algebraic expansions.

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Homework Statement



The problem and my solution attempt are in the attached file.
Am I doing it right? I didn't write the final answer because it is not what I expected. Just wanted to hear if I made any mistakes. Thank you.


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Here is what I get...I am unable to bring it to an original formula...
Is it right that we cannot prove the expression?
 

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One sec, I see my mistake.
 
You should be adding (2(k+1)-1)^2=(2k+1)^2 to each side of the equality
 
OK, here is my corrected version.
My final answer is bulky. I tried to open brackets but all I get is
(4k^3+4k^2+3k+1)/3.

Please help me from here. Or did I make a mistake before?
 

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You forgot to multiply by 3 when you put everything over 3.
 
I don't understand, sorry.
 
<br /> \frac{4k^{3}-k}{3}+(2k+1)^{2}=\frac{4k^{3}-k+3(2k+1)^{2}}{3}<br />
 
Thank you for the correction.
Where do I go from there? I tried open the brackets. Got
4k^3+12k^2+11k+3. Doesn't look nice.
 

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  • #10
Take out a factor of 4 and ask yourself what the exapnsion of (k+1)^3 is.

Mat
 
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If I open brackets, I get
4k^3+12k^2+11k+3.
I cannot factor it by 4.
 
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Stop at = \frac{4k^3 - k + 3(2k + 1)^2}{3} and expand the numerator completely. You know you want 4(k+1)^3. So do as hunt_mat suggested and expand 4(k+1)^3 as an aside (not in the proof) so you know what it is expanded. Subtract this expanded form from your expanded numerator. It should work.
 
  • #13
Thank you!
It turned out very well.
 

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