Real Analysis: one to one correspondence between two countably infinite sets

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The problem involves proving that there is a one to one correspondence between two countably infinite sets, A and B. The context is within the subject area of real analysis, specifically dealing with set theory and cardinality.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the definition of countably infinite sets and the existence of bijections with the set of positive integers. There are attempts to establish a function that maps elements from A to B and questions about the validity of using the same notation for different functions.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered hints regarding the existence of bijections and the composition of functions. There is an ongoing exploration of how to rigorously prove that the composition of bijections results in another bijection, with various interpretations being discussed.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of being precise with function notation and the implications of invertibility in the context of bijections. There is an acknowledgment of the need for rigor in proving the properties of these functions.

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Homework Statement


Suppose that A and B are both countably infinite sets. Prove that there is a one to one correspondence between A and B.


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The Attempt at a Solution



By definition of countably infinite, there is a one to one correspondence between Z+ and A and Z+ and B.

Let n ε Z+. All elements of A and B can be listed as follows

A = a1, a2, a3, ... , an
B = b1, b2, b3, ... , bn

I was going to say that if f(n) = an and f(n) = bn, then an = bn, but f:Z -> A by x and f: Z -> B by x^2 makes this invalid. I know that because A and B are both countably infinite, they are cardinally equivalent, and that if they are cardinally equivalent, then there exists a one to one correspondence between the two sets, but I can't seem to get the proof.
 
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TeenieBopper said:

Homework Statement


Suppose that A and B are both countably infinite sets. Prove that there is a one to one correspondence between A and B.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



By definition of countably infinite, there is a one to one correspondence between Z+ and A and Z+ and B.

Right. And from here it's a one-liner.

Hint 1: There's a bijection from A to Z+. There's a bijection from B to Z+. Can we find an easy bijection from A to B?

Hint 2: Bijections are always invertible.
 
TeenieBopper said:

Homework Statement


Suppose that A and B are both countably infinite sets. Prove that there is a one to one correspondence between A and B.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



By definition of countably infinite, there is a one to one correspondence between Z+ and A and Z+ and B.

Let n ε Z+. All elements of A and B can be listed as follows

A = a1, a2, a3, ... , an
B = b1, b2, b3, ... , bn

I was going to say that if f(n) = an and f(n) = bn, then an = bn, but f:Z -> A by x and f: Z -> B by x^2 makes this invalid. I know that because A and B are both countably infinite, they are cardinally equivalent, and that if they are cardinally equivalent, then there exists a one to one correspondence between the two sets, but I can't seem to get the proof.
Your first error is using "f" for two different functions! There exist a function f such that f(n)= an and another function g such that g(n)= bn. And, since these are one to one, each is invertible. What can you say about f(g^{-1}(bn)) or g(f^{-1}(an))?
 
There are bijections from Z onto A and Z onto B. Let these be f(n) and g(n), respectively. Because these are bijections, they are also invertable, expressed as f^1(n) and g^1(n), respectively. The bijection A onto B can be expressed as f(g^1(bn)) = an.
 
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TeenieBopper said:
There are bijections from Z onto A and Z onto B. Let these be f(n) and g(n), respectively. Because these are bijections, they are also invertable, expressed as f^1(n) and g^1(n), respectively. The bijection A onto B can be expressed as f(g^1(bn)) = an.

Yes, but to be completely rigorous you would want to prove that the function f o g (f composed with g) is also a bijection.

In other words you have a bijection from A to Z+ and a bijection from Z+ to B. By composing the bijections, we have a bijection from A to B -- once we have proved that the composition of bijections is a bijection.

Pictorially:

A --> Z+ --> B
 
You mean the composition f composed with g-1, don't you?
 
HallsofIvy said:
You mean the composition f composed with g-1, don't you?

Yes, in the OP's notation. Right you are.
 

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