Real Analysis - Prove the Riemann Integral Converges

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The discussion centers on proving the convergence of the Riemann integral, particularly addressing Problems 2, 3, and 4. Participants confirm that the positive and negative parts of a function \( f \) must be shown to be improper Riemann integrable, utilizing inequalities to establish this. The Mean Value Theorem (MVT) for integrals is deemed inappropriate for these problems, with emphasis placed on using an \( \epsilon-\delta \) argument to demonstrate the existence of \( f(c+) \) and \( f(c-) \). The necessity of monotonicity in proving Riemann integrability is highlighted, alongside the importance of partitions in establishing integrability.

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  • Understanding of Riemann integrability and the conditions for a function to be Riemann integrable.
  • Familiarity with the \( \epsilon-\delta \) definition of limits and continuity.
  • Knowledge of the Mean Value Theorem (MVT) and its application in calculus.
  • Concept of monotonic functions and their properties on closed intervals.
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  • Study the properties of improper Riemann integrals and conditions for integrability.
  • Learn how to apply the \( \epsilon-\delta \) definition in proving limits and continuity of functions.
  • Explore the Mean Value Theorem (MVT) and its implications in integral calculus.
  • Investigate the role of partitions and tagged partitions in proving Riemann integrability.
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Students and educators in real analysis, particularly those focusing on the properties and proofs related to Riemann integrals. This discussion is beneficial for anyone seeking to deepen their understanding of integrability conditions and the application of rigorous mathematical proofs.

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Just a couple questions.

Problem 2: Just would like to know if this is the correct approach for this problem.

Problem 3: I am just wondering if I can use Problem 2 to prove the first part of Problem 3? Because to me, they seem very similar.

Problem 4: Would I use the MVT for integrals here?

It's not necessary for me to get a full answer, just wanted to make sure I was starting them correctly.

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joypav said:
Problem 2: Just would like to know if this is the correct approach for this problem.
How do you know that the positive and negative parts of $f$ are improper Riemann integrable? There needs to be more justification.

A way to avoid the issue is to consider the inequality

$$\left\lvert \int_a^c f(x)\, dx - \int_a^d f(x)\, dx\right\rvert \le \int_d^\infty \lvert f(x)\rvert\, dx$$

for $c > d$.

joypav said:
Problem 3: I am just wondering if I can use Problem 2 to prove the first part of Problem 3? Because to me, they seem very similar.
Yes, you can.
joypav said:
Problem 4: Would I use the MVT for integrals here?
No. You'll need to prove that $f(c+)$ and $f(c-)$ exist (unless you're allowed to assume that) -- that's where monotonicity of $f$ is used. An $\epsilon-\delta$ argument will do for this problem.
 
Euge said:
No. You'll need to prove that $f(c+)$ and $f(c-)$ exist (unless you're allowed to assume that) -- that's where monotonicity of $f$ is used. An $\epsilon-\delta$ argument will do for this problem.

I see. $f$ is monotone increasing on the closed interval $[a,b]$, so it is bounded above. Then show that $f(c+)$ is equal to $inf(f(x))$ where $c<x$. Similarly for $f(c-)$.

I can also assume, by the definition given for $F(x)$, that $f\in R[a,b]$ and $F'(c)=f(c)$ for all $c\in[a,b]$? Then I can use these assumptions to rewrite $F_+^{'}(c)$ and show it is equal to $f(c+)$?
 
Euge said:
How do you know that the positive and negative parts of $f$ are improper Riemann integrable? There needs to be more justification.

A way to avoid the issue is to consider the inequality

$$\left\lvert \int_a^c f(x)\, dx - \int_a^d f(x)\, dx\right\rvert \le \int_d^\infty \lvert f(x)\rvert\, dx$$

for $c > d$.

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Can we not use the above argument to show that they are Riemann integrable? Using the fact that f is absolutely integrable.
 

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joypav said:
I can also assume, by the definition given for $F(x)$, that $f\in R[a,b]$ and $F'(c)=f(c)$ for all $c\in[a,b]$? Then I can use these assumptions to rewrite $F_+^{'}(c)$ and show it is equal to $f(c+)$?
No, but one argues that a monotone function on a closed interval $[a,b]$ belongs to $R[a,b]$. So then $F$ would make sense. Use an $\epsilon-\delta$ argument to show $F_+^{'}(c) = f(c+)$ and similarly for $F_{-}^{'}(c)$.
joypav said:
Can we not use the above argument to show that they are Riemann integrable? Using the fact that f is absolutely integrable.
No. For the indicator function on the rationals (also known as Dirichlet's function) is bounded by Riemann integrable functions, but it is not itself Riemann integrable. Typically, to prove Riemann integrability, partitions or tagged partitions are used.
 
Euge said:
No. For the indicator function on the rationals (also known as Dirichlet's function) is bounded by Riemann integrable functions, but it is not itself Riemann integrable. Typically, to prove Riemann integrability, partitions or tagged partitions are used.

I see. Being bounded does not prove that it is Riemann integrable. Thank you for the help. My professor is a stickler for detail, and rightfully so.
 
Euge said:
No, but one argues that a monotone function on a closed interval $[a,b]$ belongs to $R[a,b]$. So then $F$ would make sense. Use an $\epsilon-\delta$ argument to show $F_+^{'}(c) = f(c+)$ and similarly for $F_{-}^{'}(c)$.

I'm sorry, but I just can't figure out this problem. I finished the other one, but I'm still stuck on this question. Do you have any other advice?
 
Yes. Let $h > 0$ such that $c + h\in (a,b)$. Then

$$F(c + h) - F(c) - f(c+)h = \int_c^{c+h} [f(t) - f(c+)]\, dt $$

Let $\epsilon > 0$. There exists a $\delta > 0$ such that for all $t$, $c < t < c + h$ implies $\lvert f(t) - f(c+)\rvert < \epsilon$. Now prove $\lvert F(c + h) - F(c) - f(c+)h\rvert < \epsilon h$ whenever $0 < h < \delta$. Then $F_+'(c) = f(c+)$. Argue similarly to show $F_{-}'(c) = f(c-)$.
 

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