Rectified Current Through an Inductor

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the magnetomotive force (mmf) of an inductor in a circuit involving a full wave rectifier connected to an AC power supply. Participants explore the current flowing through the inductor, the effects of resistance, and the nature of the rectified waveform.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to determine the current through an inductor connected to a full wave rectifier and expresses confusion about graphing the current.
  • Another participant explains that the peak voltage of the AC supply can be calculated and provides a formula for the rectified output voltage, noting that the inductor will phase shift the DC current.
  • A participant questions how to find the load resistance (Rload) and inductor resistance (Rind), suggesting the use of impedance (Z) in their calculations.
  • There is a clarification regarding whether the participant is looking for average RMS values or instantaneous values, with a note that the sqrt(2) factor applies only to sinusoidal waveforms.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the rectified waveform is non-sinusoidal and contains higher harmonics, indicating that the reactance of the inductor must be evaluated for each harmonic.
  • Discussion includes the impact of inductance on current behavior, with extremes discussed where zero inductance leads to resistive current and infinite inductance results in pure DC current.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriate methods for calculating resistance and current in the context of the rectified waveform. There is no consensus on the best approach to take, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of the calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not specified all necessary component values for accurate waveform simulation, leading to uncertainty in the calculations. The discussion highlights the complexity of analyzing non-sinusoidal waveforms and the implications of inductance on current behavior.

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rectified current through inductor
Hello, I need to find the magnetomotive force (mmf) of an inductor using NI (turns multiplied by amperes). The set up is pretty simple, AC power supply set at 24 VAC goes through a full wave rectifier (4 diodes) and into an inductor. If the inductor has a resistance of 47 Ohms, it looks like this (ignore Ls and Rs)...

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I have spent a few hours and a lot of different equations trying to figure out the current flowing through the inductor. I know it will look something like this...
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but can anyone explain to me how they are graphing the current??

Thank you! (screenshots from: https://www.plexim.com/academy/power-electronics/diode-rect-ind-load )
 
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The Vgrid, 24 VAC, will have a peak voltage of Vgrid * Sqrt( 2 ).
Two bridge diodes need to conduct and will have a forward voltage of say, Vpn each.
The rectified output voltage will peak at; Vo = ( Vgrid * Sqrt( 2 )) - ( 2 * Vpn ).
The rectified waveform is close to a sine so the RMS value will be; Vrms = Vo / sqrt( 2 ).
The inductor will phase shift the DC current in proportion to the inductance.
The total output resistance will be; Ro = Rload + Rind.
The RMS average current through the inductor will be; Io = Vrms / Ro.
 
Hello, thank you for the response. How can I find Rload and Rind now? Shouldnt i be using Z? (Z=sqrt(R^2+(wL)^2)).Thank you.
 
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Your question is unclear. Are you trying to find average RMS values or instantaneous values as a function of time?

If RMS, be aware that the sqrt(2) applies only for sinusoidal waveforms. This case in non-sinusoidal waveforms.
 
akaf244 said:
Hello, thank you for the response. How can I find Rload and Rind now?
You have specified resistance of the inductor as; Rind = 47 ohms.
You must identify the load resistance; maybe the box there with 47 ohms is for the load?

akaf244 said:
Shouldnt i be using Z? (Z=sqrt(R^2+(wL)^2)).Thank you.
The rectified waveform no longer has a fundamental sinewave, so in the frequency spectrum it has 2'nd and higher even harmonics of the original fundamental. The reactance of the inductor cannot be specified as a single value, it must be evaluated for each harmonic.

The current is not a single AC sinewave, it is a DC current with even harmonic ripple. The ripple is an inverse function of the inductance. You will need to consider Vind = L * di/dt. Consider the extremes; If the inductance was zero, the current would be resistive and follow the voltage without delay. If the inductance was infinite the current would be pure DC, with the average RMS value.

All components must be specified before real waveforms can be simulated. You have not specified those values because they were not provided by your reference.
 

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