Mean voltage and current, rectifiers

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The discussion revolves around calculating the mean voltage and current in controlled and uncontrolled single device rectifier circuits with R-L series loads. Participants explore the implications of using an AC voltage source with specific parameters and the effects of the load configuration on the calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that in a series circuit, the current remains the same throughout, but question whether this holds true for AC circuits.
  • There is a reference to the average voltage for a half-wave rectifier being Vpeak/pi, with a caveat that this may only apply to purely resistive loads.
  • One participant suggests starting from scratch by setting up the governing differential equation for the instantaneous current when the diode is conducting to find its mean over the conduction period.
  • Another participant mentions that the average voltage across the inductor must be zero in steady state to determine the average load voltage.
  • Concerns are raised about the quality of instruction in the course material, leading to difficulties in understanding rectifier circuits.
  • Requests for additional resources or literature on rectifiers are made, indicating a need for further clarification and study materials.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the application of certain principles to R-L loads and the calculations involved. There is no consensus on the best approach to solve the problem, and multiple viewpoints on the topic remain present.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in their understanding due to poorly taught course material and a lack of clear instructional resources. The discussion reflects a need for foundational knowledge in rectifier circuits and their behavior under different load conditions.

Who May Find This Useful

Students and individuals seeking to understand rectifier circuits, particularly in the context of R-L loads, as well as those looking for additional resources to aid their learning in electrical engineering topics.

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Homework Statement


Devise the mean voltage and current in controlled and uncontrolled single device rectifier circuits with R-L series loads.
Single circuit series circuit given of an AC voltage source, a uncontrolled diode, resistor, inductor.
V = 240 v, F = 50 Hz, R = 10 ohms, L = 50 mH

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The Attempt at a Solution


I know that Vs = Vmaxsin(wt) , I know that in a series circuit current is the same throughout, but this is AC, do the same rules apply?
I also know that Vav for half wave rectifier = Vpeak/pi. I found this from the fact that Vav for a full wave = 2Vpeak/pi. But is this the same for an R-L load?
I don't know where to start in terms of the mean current.
 
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Keev said:
Devise the mean voltage and current in controlled and uncontrolled single device rectifier circuits with R-L series loads.
I assume this is the theme of what you're doing and this:
Keev said:
Single circuit series circuit given of an AC voltage source, a uncontrolled diode, resistor, inductor.
V = 240 v, F = 50 Hz, R = 10 ohms, L = 50 mH
is the specific assignment? I can guess the configuration, but you should include a schematic that shows the voltages and currents you're interested in.

Keev said:
... I know that in a series circuit current is the same throughout, but this is AC, do the same rules apply?
The instantaneous current is the same for series-connected elements.

Keev said:
I also know that Vav for half wave rectifier = Vpeak/pi.
If Vav is the average voltage applied to the load, then that's only true if the load is purely resistive.

Keev said:
I don't know where to start in terms of the mean current.
You can start from scratch and set up the governing differential equation for the instantaneous current when the diode is conducting, solve it analytically, and find its mean over the conduction period.

You can use the fact that the average voltage across the inductor, in steady state, must be zero to give you the average load voltage.

Usually, though, you just do this once and substitute in specific component values. Wasn't that part of your course?
 
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milesyoung said:
You can start from scratch and set up the governing differential equation for the instantaneous current when the diode is conducting, solve it analytically, and find its mean over the conduction period.

You can use the fact that the average voltage across the inductor, in steady state, must be zero to give you the average load voltage.

Usually, though, you just do this once and substitute in specific component values. Wasn't that part of your course?

It is part of my course but extremely poorly taught, along with a useless reading list. And that is why I have no idea how to do it. I was wondering if you know of any links or books helping to explain rectifiers? I've read through electrical machines, drives and power systems by Theodore Wildi and John Bird's electrical circuit theory and technology but neither has helped with my knowledge in regards to rectifier circuits.

And it's not really an assignment or homework for that matter, but I was told to post it in this part of the forums. The question is more for my personal revision rather than homework.
 
Keev said:
I was wondering if you know of any links or books helping to explain rectifiers?
With regards to your problem statement, have you tried doing a search on Google for something like 'half-wave rectifier RL load'? I see plenty of useful information.

Take, for instance, this book excerpt.
 

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