MHB Recursive definition and induction

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The discussion centers on the recursive sequence defined by $a_n = a_{n-1} + a_{n-3}$ with base cases $a_1 = 1$, $a_2 = 2$, and $a_3 = 3$. Participants aim to prove that every natural number can be expressed as a sum of different elements from this series. There is a suggestion to calculate the initial terms of the sequence to better understand recursion, leading to terms like $a_4 = 4$, $a_5 = 6$, and $a_6 = 9$. The conversation also touches on potential challenges in forming sums, particularly with certain number bases, and hints at an algorithmic approach to address these challenges. Overall, the discussion seeks clarity on both the recursive definition and the proof of the summation property for natural numbers.
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Hey.

The series $a_n$ is defined by a recursive formula $a_n = a_{n-1} + a_{n-3}$ and its base case is $a_1 = 1 \ a_2 = 2 \ a_3 = 3$.
Prove that every natural number can be written as a sum (of one or more) of different elements of the series $a_n$.

Now, I know that is correct intuitively but I don't know how to prove that.
Generally, I have some problem of understanding the concept of recursion.

Thanks.
 
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CStudent said:
Hey.

The series $a_n$ is defined by a recursive formula $a_n = a_{n-1} + a_{n-3}$ and its base case is $a_1 = 1 \ a_2 = 2 \ a_3 = 3$.
Prove that every natural number can be written as a sum (of one or more) of different elements of the series $a_n$.

Now, I know that is correct intuitively but I don't know how to prove that.
Generally, I have some problem of understanding the concept of recursion.
Since you're unclear on the concept of recursion, it would be a good idea to calculate a few terms of the sequence. (Note that what you have here is a sequence of numbers. A series is the sum of numbers in some sequence.)

From the given info we have:
##a_1 = 1##
##a_2 = 2##
##a_3 = 3##
Using the recursion formula, we get:
##a_4 = a_3 + a_1 = 3 + 1 = 4##
##a_5 = a_4 + a_2 = 4 + 2 = 6##
##a_6 = a_5 + a_3 = 6 + 3 = 9##
and so on...
 
CStudent said:
Hey.

The series $a_n$ is defined by a recursive formula $a_n = a_{n-1} + a_{n-3}$ and its base case is $a_1 = 1 \ a_2 = 2 \ a_3 = 3$.
Prove that every natural number can be written as a sum (of one or more) of different elements of the series $a_n$.

Now, I know that is correct intuitively but I don't know how to prove that.
Generally, I have some problem of understanding the concept of recursion.

Thanks.
It's not a really easy proof, I think.

- How would you go about writing a natural number as a sum of the elements of a sequence. I think there's a rather obvious algorithm.
- What can go wrong with this algorithm. Why does it fail with powers of 3.
- How can you prove that this can't happen here. (using the recursion)
 
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