Recursive logistic map vs continuous logistic function

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on the relationship between the recursive logistic map and the continuous logistic function, specifically the differential equation df(x)/dx = f(x)(1-f(x)). The recursive function xn+1 = xn(1-xn) is examined for its convergence to the continuous logistic function as n approaches zero. Additionally, the role of the parameter r in the logistic map xn+1 = r.xn(1-xn) is questioned regarding its presence in the continuous version of the differential equation. The conversation highlights the distinction between continuous-time and discrete-time systems and their differing behaviors.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of differential equations, specifically logistic growth models.
  • Familiarity with recursive functions and their applications in mathematical modeling.
  • Knowledge of continuous-time vs. discrete-time systems in dynamical systems.
  • Basic grasp of the concept of convergence in mathematical sequences.
NEXT STEPS
  • Explore the derivation of the logistic differential equation df(x)/dx = f(x)(1-f(x)).
  • Investigate the implications of the parameter r in the logistic map and its effects on system behavior.
  • Learn about the approximation techniques for differential equations using recurrence relations.
  • Study the differences between continuous-time and discrete-time dynamical systems in greater detail.
USEFUL FOR

Mathematicians, researchers in dynamical systems, and students studying differential equations and mathematical modeling will benefit from this discussion.

nomadreid
Gold Member
Messages
1,771
Reaction score
255
how is the logistic function characterized by the differential equation
df(x)/dx = f(x)(1-f(x))
[with solution f(x)=1/(1+e-x), but this is irrelevant to the question]
the continuous version of the logistic map, given by the recursive function:
xn+1 = xn(1-xn)?
It would seem to me that, in order for the limit of the latter, as n goes to zero, to go to the former, you would need the latter to look like this:
xn+1-xn = xn(1-xn)

A second question: usually the logistic map is given by
xn+1 = r.xn(1-xn) for some real r.
when taking the continuous version, does the r survive as
df(x)/dx = r.f(x)(1-f(x))?

Thanks.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
nomadreid said:
how is the logistic function characterized by the differential equation
df(x)/dx = f(x)(1-f(x))
the continuous version of the logistic map, given by the recursive function:
xn+1 = xn(1-xn)?

It depends on what you mean by "continuous version". Given a suitable f(x), you can either turn it into a continuous-time system by setting
<br /> \dot x = f(x)<br />
or a discrete-time system by setting
<br /> x_{n+1} = f(x_n).<br />
But it is not always the case that the two will behave similarly.

A different idea is the approximation of a differential equation by a recurrence relation. If one sets t = nh and x_n = x(nh) for some h &gt; 0 then one can approximate \dot x(t) by (x_{n+1} - x_n)/h to obtain
x_{n+1} = x_n + hf(x_n).
But this is not the same recurrence relation as x_{n+1} = f(x_n).
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 24 ·
Replies
24
Views
7K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
4K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
3K