“Recursive” Sequence Reaching Every Open Interval

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The discussion revolves around a recursive sequence defined by the movement of a particle on the number line, specifically examining how the particle can reach points within a specified open interval that is a subset of (a-1, a) for a fixed value of a between 0 and 1. The original poster seeks to prove that any such interval contains a reachable point by the particle, starting from the origin.

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  • Participants explore the mechanics of the particle's movement, questioning how it can fill in gaps between reachable points. There is discussion about the nature of the steps taken by the particle and whether the approach can be generalized for different values of a. Some participants suggest examining the properties of iterated function systems in relation to the problem.

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The discussion is active, with participants raising questions about the nature of the problem and the mechanics of the particle's movement. Some guidance has been offered regarding the properties of iterated function systems, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach to take or the specifics of the binary method mentioned.

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There is uncertainty regarding whether the problem is considered homework, and participants are questioning the assumptions about the particle's movement and the number of steps involved in reaching points within the interval.

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Let x denote the position of a particle on the number line. From x, it can move to either the point a-a2+ax or to the point x-ax-a+a2 for some fixed 0<a<1. Suppose the particle starts at the origin. Prove that any open interval that is a subset of the interval (a-1,a) contains a point that the particle can reach.

It’s fairly clear the particle can get arbitrarily close to the origin (by moving in one direction continuously and then suddenly swapping). Thus you can get arbitrarily close to a point that is reached by moving in one direction continuously. But I don’t know how to fill in the “holes” in between these points
 
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Is this homework?

Does the particle do many consecutive steps, following these rules?

For a=0.5 it looks like you can approach any point in a binary way (reducing the distance by 2 with each additional step). I guess this can be generalized to other values of a.
 
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mfb said:
Is this homework?

Does the particle do many consecutive steps, following these rules?

For a=0.5 it looks like you can approach any point in a binary way (reducing the distance by 2 with each additional step). I guess this can be generalized to other values of a.

Yes. The particle does do many consecutive steps. Could you be more explicit about the binary approach for a=0.5; I’m not quite understanding it. Thanks!
 
This is an iterated function system, altough a rather boring one in one dimension. Everything under "Properties" in the wikipedia article applies here. If I is the interval of interest (a-1,a) the main thing is to find out what f_1(I) ∪ f_2(I) is. (the union of the ranges of f_1 and f_2).
 
This is an iterated function system, altough a rather boring one in one dimension. Everything under "Properties" in the wikipedia article applies here. If I is the interval of interest (a-1,a) the main thing is to find out what f_1(I) ∪ f_2(I) is. (the union of the ranges of f_1 and f_2).
 

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