Related Rates, elliptical motion

In summary, a satellite is in orbit around Earth at a distance described by the equation r=4995/(1+.12cos@), with a radius of Earth at 3960 miles. The task is to find the rate at which the altitude is changing when @=120 degrees, with a given rate of d@/dt=2.7 degrees/min. By plugging in the values and using radians, the rate of change in altitude is approximately 27.6843 mi/min. The reason for not using R earth is because it is already incorporated in the given equation for the distance from the center of the Earth.
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Homework Statement



A satellite is in an orbit around earth. The distance from the center of the Earth is described by

r= 4995/(1+.12cos@) R earth= 3960 mi

find the rate at which the altitude is changing at the instant where @=120 degrees. d@/dt= 2.7 degrees/min



2. Notes
altitude equals r - (R earth)

"@" describes the angle the satellite forms with the Perigee of Earth (the closest point)


The Attempt at a Solution



a = r - (R earth) = 4995/(1+cos@) - 3960

da/dt= [-4995(-sin@)d@/dt]/(1+cos@)^2

by plugging in the values I get: ~ 46,700 mi/min

The answer from back of book is 27.7 mi/min


I do find it a mystery that the R Earth is not used, that may be a key to solving it. Help!
 
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Hi Tclack! :smile:

(have a theta: θ :wink:)
Tclack said:
r= 4995/(1+.12cos@) R earth= 3960 mi

find the rate at which the altitude is changing at the instant where @=120 degrees. d@/dt= 2.7 degrees/min

da/dt= [-4995(-sin@)d@/dt]/(1+cos@)^2

erm :redface:

what happened to .12? :cry:
 
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r=\frac{4995}{1+\frac{3}{25}cos{\theta}}

\frac{dr}{dt}=\frac{374625sin{\theta}}{(3cos{\theta}+25)^{2}}\cdot\frac{d{\theta}}{dt}

I am using radians, so be careful with the 2.7. That is \frac{3\pi}{200} rad.

So, we get:

\frac{dr}{dt}=\frac{374625sin{\frac{2\pi}{3}}}{(3cos{\frac{2\pi}{3}}+25)^{2}}\cdot\frac{3\pi}{200}=\frac{44955\sqrt{3}{\pi}}{8836}\approx 27.6843 \;\ \frac{mi}{min}

The reason the R is not used is because the given equation has it incorporated and already gives the distance from the CENTER of the Earth.
 
  • #4
Hi Tclack! :smile:
Tclack said:
[tex]r=\frac{4995}{1+\frac{3}{25}cos{\theta}}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{dr}{dt}=\frac{374625sin{\theta}}{(3cos{\theta}+25)^{2}}\cdot\frac{d{\theta}}{dt}[/tex]

I am using radians, so be careful with the 2.7. That is \frac{3\pi}{200} rad.

So, we get:

[tex]\frac{dr}{dt}=\frac{374625sin{\frac{2\pi}{3}}}{(3cos{\frac{2\pi}{3}}+25)^{2}}\cdot\frac{3\pi}{200}[/tex]
[tex]=\frac{44955\sqrt{3}{\pi}}{8836}[/tex]\approx 27.6843 \;\ \frac{mi}{min}

The reason the R is not used is because the given equation has it incorporated and already gives the distance from the CENTER of the Earth.

(you needed to type [noparse][tex] before and [/tex] after [/noparse] :wink: …)


Sorry, but this is too difficult to check unless you show more of the steps. :redface:

(and you have at least one minus sign wrong)
 

1. What is related rates in elliptical motion?

Related rates is a mathematical concept that describes the relationship between the rates of change of two or more variables in a given situation. In elliptical motion, related rates can help us determine how the shape and size of an ellipse changes over time.

2. How do you find related rates in elliptical motion?

To find related rates in elliptical motion, we can use the chain rule from calculus. This involves taking the derivative of the ellipse equation with respect to time and then substituting in the given rates of change for the variables in the equation. This will give us the rate of change of the ellipse's shape and size over time.

3. Can you give an example of a related rates problem in elliptical motion?

Sure, an example of a related rates problem in elliptical motion could be determining the rate at which the area of an ellipse is changing when the length of its major axis is increasing at a rate of 2 cm/s and the length of its minor axis is decreasing at a rate of 1 cm/s.

4. What are some real-world applications of related rates in elliptical motion?

Related rates in elliptical motion can be used to model the orbits of planets and other celestial bodies in our solar system. It can also be applied in engineering and physics to analyze the motion of objects in an elliptical path, such as satellites or pendulums.

5. Are there any limitations to using related rates in elliptical motion?

One limitation of using related rates in elliptical motion is that it assumes the ellipse is a perfect shape with no external forces acting on it. In real-world scenarios, there may be factors such as air resistance or gravitational pull that can affect the shape and motion of an ellipse. Additionally, the calculations can become complex when dealing with multiple variables and rates of change.

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