Related Rates - Volume and Height

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves related rates concerning the volume and height of water in a conical glass. The original poster is tasked with determining the rate at which the height of the water changes when the glass is partially filled.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to differentiate an equation for height derived from the volume of the cone but encounters negative results. Some participants question the validity of the derived equation for height and suggest that the relationship between volume and height should be cubic rather than linear. Others propose using geometric relationships, such as similar triangles, to relate the radius and height of the cone.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the relationships between volume, height, and radius. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of similar triangles to eliminate the radius from the equations.

Contextual Notes

There is a note regarding the original poster's confusion about the derived equations and the relationship between the dimensions of the cone. The problem also involves a specific rate of water being poured, which may influence the calculations.

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Homework Statement


"A man pours water into a conical glass (with radius 9cm and height 6cm) at a rate of 8cm^3.

At what rate is the height of the water changing per second when the height of the glass is 2/3rd's full of water?

NOTE: The answer is supposedly 2/9(pi) cm/sec. I am supposed to show that this is right.


Homework Equations



V= 1/3*(pi)*r^2*h

h = (3V)/(2*(pi)^2)

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried to differentiate the h equation that I found above. Then, after differentiating, I subbed in the radius (6) and the Volume (48). Note that I found the radius to be 6, and volume to be 48 when the height is 2/3rds (and thus, 4). However, after I diff and then plug, I always come up with a negative answer.

Thanks for any help.
 
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NOVAMath said:

Homework Equations



V= 1/3*(pi)*r^2*h

h = (3V)/(2*(pi)^2)

I really don't see how you came up with the second equation, unless it's the result of making mistakes while trying to solve the first one for h. (It should be clear to you that the volume should be proportional to the cube of the height -- and not linear with it.)

In order to solve this problem, you will need to use a relationship between the radius of the cone and the height of the cone.
 
Sorry, that second equation should be:

3V/((pi)(r^2))

What two equations dealing with the radius and height should I be comparing?
 
V is proportional to h*r^2 and r and h are proportional to each other (since it is a cone), so essentially V is proportional to h^3.
 
Use similar triangles to get rid of radius.

\frac r h = \frac 9 6

Solve for radius and plug it back into your original equation.
 

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