Relating Volume Charge Density and Linear Charge Density

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The discussion centers on calculating the linear charge density (λ2) of a thick insulating shell surrounding an infinite line of charge with a known linear density (λ1 = 6.7 μC/m). The insulating shell has a volume charge density (ρ = -722 μC/m³) and inner and outer radii of 2.4 cm and 4.7 cm, respectively. The correct formula derived for λ2 is λ = (2π(b² - a²)) * ρ, where the factor of 2 was mistakenly included in earlier attempts. The numerical solution provided was λ2 = -7.41 μC/m, which was confirmed as correct after removing the erroneous factor.

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Homework Statement


An infinite line of charge with linear density λ1 = 6.7 μC/m is positioned along the axis of a thick insulating shell of inner radius a = 2.4 cm and outer radius b = 4.7 cm. The insulating shell is uniformly charged with a volume density of ρ = -722 μC/m3.

What is λ2, the linear charge density of the insulating shell?

Homework Equations


(Vouter shell-Vinner shell)*ρ <-- current one I'm using, but I could be wrong.

The Attempt at a Solution


My approach has been to find a bridge between the two densities by relating the volume to the length, but in every attempt I've made I've run into the problem of what to do about the length variable, as the shell is infinite. This is a gauss's law problem, so I've also tried using that to get rid of length variable - however I realized I didn't have the E-field.

With the current equation I'm using, I've again run into not knowing what to do about the length of the cylindrical shell.

ETA - Okay, I've now tried this:

ρ=Q/(2pi(b2-a2)L) and Q=ρ*V=λ*L

So, λ*L=(2pi(b2-a2)L)*ρ, and the lengths will cancel

λ=(2pi(b2-a2))*ρ

Answer is wrong though.
 
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acdurbin953 said:
λ=(2pi(b2-a2))*ρ
Looks right to me. What do you get numerically? Do you know what the answer is supposed to be?
 
acdurbin953 said:

Homework Statement


An infinite line of charge with linear density λ1 = 6.7 μC/m is positioned along the axis of a thick insulating shell of inner radius a = 2.4 cm and outer radius b = 4.7 cm. The insulating shell is uniformly charged with a volume density of ρ = -722 μC/m3.

What is λ2, the linear charge density of the insulating shell?

Homework Equations


(Vouter shell-Vinner shell)*ρ <-- current one I'm using, but I could be wrong.

The Attempt at a Solution


My approach has been to find a bridge between the two densities by relating the volume to the length, but in every attempt I've made I've run into the problem of what to do about the length variable, as the shell is infinite. This is a gauss's law problem, so I've also tried using that to get rid of length variable - however I realized I didn't have the E-field.

With the current equation I'm using, I've again run into not knowing what to do about the length of the cylindrical shell.

ETA - Okay, I've now tried this:

ρ=Q/(2pi(b2-a2)L) and Q=ρ*V=λ*L

So, λ*L=(2pi(b2-a2)L)*ρ, and the lengths will cancel

λ=(2pi(b2-a2))*ρ

Answer is wrong though.

There is no "2" in the Volume of a cylinder ... it is Area x Length.
 
lightgrav said:
There is no "2" in the Volume of a cylinder ... it is Area x Length.
Ah yes - I didn't notice the 2.
 
haruspex said:
Looks right to me. What do you get numerically? Do you know what the answer is supposed to be?

I did (-722E-6)(2pi(0.0472-0.0242)) = -7.41 μC, I input -7.41 as the units were already included and the answer was wrong. I have no access to the answer.
 
Ah! I have no idea how I didn't notice that. Removed the 2 and the answer was correct. Thank you!

I must've carried the 2 around after playing with using the surface area to solve.
 

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