Relationship betwen SHM frequency and harmonic oscillator freq.

In summary, the conversation discusses the relationship between the frequency of a harmonic oscillator (spring) and a simple harmonic oscillator (pendulum). The conversation also mentions deriving the equations for both systems. There is a mention of the distinction between a simple harmonic oscillator and a damped system.
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Homework Statement



Relate the frequency of a harmonic oscillator (spring) to that of a simple harmonic oscillator (pendulum) Show all derivations.



Homework Equations



pendulum:
f=(1/(2∏))√(g/L)



The Attempt at a Solution



Not exactly sure how to go about this...is it saying that a spring isn't a SHM...because I thought it was. Please help me understand!
 
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welcome to pf!

hi songbird7! welcome to pf! :smile:

i think they're getting at the distinction mentioned in wikipedia
If F is the only force acting on the system, the system is called a simple harmonic oscillator …​

since a spring can be damped, its motion wouldn't be simple harmonic :wink:
 

1. What is the relationship between SHM frequency and harmonic oscillator frequency?

The relationship between SHM (Simple Harmonic Motion) frequency and harmonic oscillator frequency is that they are directly proportional to each other. This means that as one frequency increases, the other also increases in a linear manner.

2. How is the frequency of SHM related to the mass and spring constant of the harmonic oscillator?

The frequency of SHM is related to the mass and spring constant of the harmonic oscillator through the equation: f = 1/2π √(k/m), where f is the frequency, k is the spring constant, and m is the mass. This means that as the mass or spring constant increases, the frequency decreases.

3. Can the frequency of SHM and harmonic oscillator frequency be the same?

Yes, the frequency of SHM and harmonic oscillator frequency can be the same if the mass and spring constant are equal. In this case, the two frequencies will be equal to each other.

4. How does increasing the amplitude affect the frequency of SHM and harmonic oscillator?

Increasing the amplitude of SHM and harmonic oscillator does not affect the frequency. The frequency is only determined by the mass and spring constant, and not the amplitude.

5. Is there a limit to the frequency of SHM and harmonic oscillator?

There is no limit to the frequency of SHM and harmonic oscillator. As long as there is a mass and a spring, the oscillations can occur at any frequency. However, at very high frequencies, the system may not behave like a simple harmonic oscillator anymore.

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