Relative error problem in vector calculus gradient intro

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The discussion revolves around a problem in vector calculus related to the relative error in measurements of the perimeter and area of a circle. Participants are exploring how to express the relative error in terms of these measurements.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss different methods for calculating the relative error, including substituting measured values into the differential equation and manipulating the expressions for relative errors. Some express confusion over specific calculations and the accuracy of their results.

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The conversation includes various attempts to clarify the problem and share insights. Some participants have found helpful guidance, while others are still seeking clarity on the correct approach. There is no explicit consensus on the solution, but several lines of reasoning are being explored.

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Some participants mention issues with the webassign program and potential bugs affecting the problem, indicating that the assignment may not be straightforward. There is also a shared experience among students from the same university, suggesting a common challenge in understanding the material.

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(a) Write a formula for the number in terms of the perimeter L and the area A of a circle.

(b) Write the differential for your answer in part (a).

(c) Suppose that L and A are determined experimentally. Write the resulting relative error in using your answer in part (b).

3.
a)pi(A,L)=[tex]\frac{L^{2}}{4A}[/tex]
b)dpi=[tex]\frac{L}{2A}[/tex]dL-[tex]\frac{L^{2}}{4A^{2}}[/tex]dA
c)

I've tried several different values for part c, but can't seem to find a convincing answer. I know that the equation begins with dpi/pi and each part has some value with a coefficient of dL/L + dA/A
 
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I can think of two approaches:

1. Suppose experimenting introduces measurement error into each of L and A. Let L* = L + dL and A* = A + dA be the measured quantities of each of L and A respectively (dL and dA are the absolute errors; dL/L and dA/A are the relative errors). Substitute into dpi(A*,L*)/pi(A*,L*).

2. Write dpi = (L^2/2A)dL/L + (L^2/4A)dA/A; divide through by pi = L^2/4A to obtain dpi/pi.
 
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I made a boo boo and seem to have done something wrong on the webassign program. But thank you for the help. I understand the concept a little better now.
 
Haha, I have the same homework problem on webassign right now. I was a little lost as well, crazy that I found this here.
 
Turns out that the problem is bugged. Even the teacher couldn't get the right answer.
 
Do you also go to UA or is this a common vector calc problem that happened to be assigned at nearly the same exact time lol?
 
So what is the correct answer to this question ? I am also doing the same problem and didn't get the answer
 
I go to UA and this problem gave me so much grief. However, I found the right answer!
so d(pi)/pi is the same as taking the differential function and dividing by the original:
d(pi)/pi=(L/(2A)*dL-L^2/(4A^2)*dA)/(L^2/(4A^2)
Simplify, and this gives you:
2dL/L-1dA/A

Hope no one else has to struggle like I did!
 
After coming down to my last submission you're post was extremely helpful! Also a UA student here.
 

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