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The discussion revolves around the search for resources, specifically books and PDFs, that introduce special relativistic calculus. Participants explore the mathematical foundations relevant to special and general relativity, including the role of calculus and algebra in these theories.

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  • One participant requests resources for special relativistic calculus, indicating an interest in the calculus involved in relativity.
  • Another participant argues that special relativity primarily utilizes algebra, suggesting that calculus is not essential for understanding the transformations involved.
  • A participant clarifies their background as an undergraduate and expresses interest in both special and general relativity, noting the potential need for calculus in vectorial problems.
  • Several participants discuss the traditional sequence of calculus courses and the relevance of differential equations and differential geometry for understanding general relativity.
  • Links to resources, such as a PDF on tensor calculus and books on special and general relativity, are shared by participants as helpful materials.
  • One participant emphasizes that relativistic calculus is essentially tensor calculus applied to relativity, providing links to specific texts and resources.
  • Another participant mentions the historical development of field concepts and their relation to vector and tensor calculus in the context of relativity.

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Participants express differing views on the necessity of calculus in special relativity, with some asserting that it primarily involves algebra while others highlight the importance of calculus in certain contexts. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the role of calculus in relativity.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the complexity of tensor calculus and its application in relativity, indicating that understanding these concepts may require a deeper mathematical background than initially assumed.

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Just wanted any books / pdfs which introduce special relativistic calculus.
 
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Calculus is calculus, and was invented centuries before Einstein. Special relativity largely uses only algebra - the transformations are algebraic, although one can set up a situation where the dynamics requires calculus: just as in Newtonian mechanics. So I don't know what you are asking. (Oh, and are you really a physicist?)
 
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Calculus is calculus, and was invented centuries before Einstein. Special relativity largely uses only algebra - the transformations are algebraic, although one can set up a situation where the dynamics requires calculus: just as in Newtonian mechanics. So I don't know what you are asking. (Oh, and are you really a physicist?)
I don't think I'm qualified to state I'm a physicist. I am an undergrad starting 2nd year, I was interested in calculus used in special relativity. I have read up on some questions using interesting derivates whilst answering said questions related to the time invariant.Also I think I should have said general relativistic calculus as I get your point on special relativity being mostly based on constant frames of references, which are often more conceptual than mathematically challenging.However i guess when you bring in vectorial problems you begin to use calculus often. Was looking for pdfs like that. I haven't started on general relativity but would appreciate an intro to it as well (Assuming there is a lot of calc. involved.
 
Traditionally calculus is taught in a math department starting with a three-semester sequence of Cal I, Cal II, and Call III. Differential equations follows, although usually the prerequisite is only Cal II. You can polish that off with an undergrad course or two in differential geometry.

For an undergrad course in general relativity probably all of the above would be good to have, but usually they're not all required. The best strategy would be to ask the professors who teach the undergrad courses in relativity.

By the way, these professors are almost always happy to discuss these things with potential students. They are happy when students show an interest in the courses they teach. Unless you happen to approach them on a day when they're in a bad mood. :H
 
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Traditionally calculus is taught in a math department starting with a three-semester sequence of Cal I, Cal II, and Call III. Differential equations follows, although usually the prerequisite is only Cal II. You can polish that off with an undergrad course or two in differential geometry.

For an undergrad course in general relativity probably all of the above would be good to have, but usually they're not all required. The best strategy would be to ask the professors who teach the undergrad courses in relativity.

By the way, these professors are almost always happy to discuss these things with potential students. They are happy when students show an interest in the courses they teach. Unless you happen to approach them on a day when they're in a bad mood. :H
I have done a few calc units that weres required.I was thinking of going into pure maths electives as that is often more "creative" in mathematics.
 
Somali_Physicist said:
this is exactly the kind of stuff i was looking for.

That's good. But it would help a lot if you were clearer about what you were looking for. As Daverz said, this has no relationship to what is usually meant by "calculus".
 
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Relativistic Calculus is just tensor calculus - but applied to Relativity

Here is a self contained account:
http://www.ita.uni-heidelberg.de/~dullemond/lectures/tensor/tensor.pdf

But you will learn it in any good book on SR and/or GR.

In order I would get - First for SR
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0198539525/?tag=pfamazon01-20

It emphasizes symmetry as the basis of SR - which IMHO is the correct approach.

For GR Dirac's little book explains the tensor calculus you need for that:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/069101146X/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Watch Dirac though - its brevity comes at a price - he just states the main result Ruv = 0 rather than motivates it - there are deeper reasons why it is so.

Also watch Tensor calculus in general - its a very brief and concise notation. Proving what look like simple things can be more difficult than you think. My vector calculus teacher at uni expressed it this way - don't pick up a book on tensor calculus for a bit of light reading - it will suck you in hours for hours.

Thanks
Bill
 
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bhobba said:
Relativistic Calculus is just tensor calculus - but applied to Relativity

Here is a self contained account:
http://www.ita.uni-heidelberg.de/~dullemond/lectures/tensor/tensor.pdf

But you will learn it in any good book on SR and/or GR.

In order I would get - First for SR
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0198539525/?tag=pfamazon01-20

It emphasizes symmetry as the basis of SR - which IMHO is the correct approach.

For GR Dirac's little book explains the tensor calculus you need for that:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/069101146X/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Watch Dirac though - its brevity comes at a price - he just states the main result Ruv = 0 rather than motivates it - there are deeper reasons why it is so.

Also watch Tensor calculus in general - its a very brief and concise notation. Proving what look like simple things can be more difficult that you think. My vector calculus teacher at uni expressed it this way - don't pick up a book on tensor calculus for a bit of light reading - it will suck you in hours for hours.

Thanks
Bill
Awesome, I have pretty much developed a concise understanding of Special Relativity since I have done quiet a few units on it.However this year it will be further explained with hints of General relativity.I stumbled on tensors and was absolutely dumb founded , every day I find out I know less and less... and damnt it feels great!
 
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Maybe also my SR introduction helps. It's, by the way not true, that SR consists only of linear algebra. The most important development of 19th-20th century physics is the development of the field concept by Faraday, brought into mathematical form by Maxwell, Heaviside, and the other "Maxwellians", and this is indeed vector and tensor calculus. In a sense it's "relativistic calculus", because it's tensor calculus in Minkowski space or, if you also include gravity and Einstein's General Relativity, a Lorentz manifold. So, here's my intro to SR (it's not finished yet, but maybe as an intro it's already helpful):

https://th.physik.uni-frankfurt.de/~hees/pf-faq/srt.pdf
 
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Awesome dude thanks a lot
 

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