Relativistic Particle Decay: Momentum Conservation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the conservation of momentum in the context of a particle decay process, specifically addressing the signs and representations of momentum vectors. Participants explore different conventions for denoting momentum and their implications for understanding the decay of a particle at rest into two daughter particles.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that the conservation of momentum can be expressed as ##\vec{p}_a + \vec{p}_b = 0## in the rest frame of the parent particle, indicating that the momenta of the decay products are equal in magnitude but opposite in direction.
  • Another participant notes that some authors use different notations to distinguish between vector quantities and their magnitudes, leading to potential confusion about whether ##p_a = -p_b## implies ##|p_a| = |p_b|##.
  • There is mention of various conventions used by authors, such as using bold font for vectors and italic for magnitudes, which can affect the interpretation of momentum equations.
  • A later reply acknowledges the use of bold letters on a specific website, suggesting that this clarification resolves the confusion regarding the notation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the notation and interpretation of momentum conservation equations, indicating that multiple conventions exist without a clear consensus on which is preferable in this context.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the importance of specifying directions when discussing momentum and the potential for misunderstanding due to varying notational conventions among different authors.

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A particle with mass M a rest decays into two particles a and b.

I know that Ea + Eb = Mc2, from conservation of energy. But I'm pretty confused about signs in the conservation of momentum equation, and I've actually seen two versions!

pa + pb = 0, so

pa = - pb.

But I've also seen pa = pb! I know one is magnitudes and the other takes account of directions. Both are right, but which applies for the situation described above? As in, don't they conflict?
 
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Momenta include directions as well as magnitudes, so you need to specify directions. In that case, the correct equation is: ##\vec{p}_a+\vec{p}_b=0## assuming you are in the rest frame of the parent particle.
 
Some authors use bold font to denote a vector ##\textbf{p}## and an italic font to denote the length of a vector ##p##. Under this convention, $$
\textbf{p}_a = -\textbf{p}_b
$$implies$$
p_a = p_b
$$Similarly for authors who denote a vector with an overarrow: ##\vec{p}##

And then there are some authors who use no special font for vectors who would say:
$$
p_a = -p_b
$$implies$$
|p_a| = |p_b|
$$
 
DrGreg said:
Some authors use bold font to denote a vector ##\textbf{p}## and an italic font to denote the length of a vector ##p##. Under this convention, $$
\textbf{p}_a = -\textbf{p}_b
$$implies$$
p_a = p_b
$$Similarly for authors who denote a vector with an overarrow: ##\vec{p}##

And then there are some authors who use no special font for vectors who would say:
$$
p_a = -p_b
$$implies$$
|p_a| = |p_b|
$$
Oh, they were using bold letters on the website. Thanks, that solves it!
 

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