Relativistic Time Dilation and Length Contraction in Overtaking Rockets

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The problem involves two rockets, each 1000m long in their rest frames, with Rocket A traveling at 0.800c and Rocket B at 0.600c. The discussion focuses on calculating the time it takes for Rocket A to completely pass Rocket B from both perspectives, considering relativistic effects such as time dilation and length contraction.

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  • Participants explore the application of relativistic equations to determine the time taken for one rocket to pass another from different frames of reference. There is a discussion about the symmetry of the situation and whether the time intervals measured by the crews of both rockets would be the same.

Discussion Status

Some participants have confirmed the calculations presented for the time taken from one perspective and have encouraged further exploration of the second part of the problem. There is an ongoing examination of the symmetry argument regarding the measurements from both rockets.

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Participants are working within the constraints of relativistic physics and are questioning the assumptions related to the measurements taken by the crews of the rockets. There is a focus on understanding the implications of length contraction and time dilation in this context.

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Homework Statement


Two rockets are each 1000m long in their rest frames. Rocket A, traveling at 0.800c relative to the earth, is overtaking Rocket B, which is moving in the same direction at 0.600c.

(i) According to the crew on B, how long does A take to completely pass? I.e. how long is it from the instant the nose of A is at the tail of B until the tail of A is at the nose of B?
(ii) Would the crew of A measure the same time interval according to their clocks? If so, explain why. If not, what is the time interval measured by the crew of A?

Homework Equations


l = l0/γ --- Eqn 1
v = (v' + u)/(1 + uv'/c2) --- Eqn 2

The Attempt at a Solution


(i) Using Eqn 2, A is moving 0.384c relative to B.
Using Eqn 1, length contracted A from B's perspective = 0.923l0
From B's perspective, B is stationary, and A is moving past at 0.384c.
Time taken = (1+0.923)l0/0.384c = 1.67 * 10-5 s
Is this correct?

(ii) I am not sure, but I think the crew would measure the same time interval because of symmetry...??

Thanks!
 
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Your answers to both parts appear to me to be correct (including the symmetry argument). Since you are not confident of (ii), try working it out with the same type of reasoning as (i).
 
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TSny said:
Your answers to both parts appear to me to be correct (including the symmetry argument). Since you are not confident of (ii), try working it out with the same type of reasoning as (i).

Hmm I thought it would be symmetrical because according to the crew of A, A is stationary and B is moving at -0.384c relative to A. Thus the length of B is contracted to 0.923l0. So time taken for B to pass A is (1+0.923)l0/0.384c = 1.67 * 10-5, which is the same as (i). Is this correct?
 
Yes. Exactly.
 
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