Relativity question, photon and proton

In summary, the time interval that the photon precedes the proton is approximately -1.55 x 10^-12 seconds, as calculated using the equation t2 = x/c(1-ε) and approximating ε to first order. This time is in the reference frame of the proton.
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Relativity question, photon and proton...

Homework Statement


Proton of gamma factor 10^12 and a photon set off from one side of our galaxy to the other take the distance to be 9.3x10^20m.
What is the time interval that the photon precedes the proton?

Homework Equations


\gamma = sqrt(c/2epsilon). (epsilon being c-v)

The Attempt at a Solution


Worked out epsilon to be 1.5x10^(-18)Not sure where to go from there anyhelp/hints would be most appreciated.
 
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You should try to form ratios that are dimensionless. In this case, you could write
[tex]v = c - \Delta v = c\left(1 - \frac{\delta v}{c}\right) = c(1-\varepsilon)[/tex]where [itex]\varepsilon = \Delta v/c[/itex]. Why? Because it avoids any complication due to units, for one thing. Regardless of which set of units you use, [itex]\varepsilon[/itex] defined this way will always turn out to have the same value. Moreover, an expression is often more naturally expressed in terms of these unitless ratios.

You can show that
[tex]\gamma = \frac{1}{\sqrt{1-(v/c)^2}} = \frac{1}{\sqrt{1-(1-\varepsilon)^2}} \cong \frac{1}{\sqrt{2\varepsilon}}[/tex]

Now write down expressions for the time each takes to travel the given distance.
 
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[itex] \Delta t = \frac{(1- \epsilon )x-x}{c (1- \epsilon) }[/itex]


after putting [itex] t_1 = \frac{x}{c} [/itex] and [itex] t_2 = \frac{x}{c(1- \epsilon )} [/itex], then to find [itex] \Delta t = t_1 - t_2 [/itex]

but I can't seem to get it , did I do this correctly?
 
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Prodigium said:
[itex] \Delta t = \frac{(1- \epsilon )x-x}{c (1- \epsilon) }[/itex]


after putting [itex] t_1 = \frac{x}{c} [/itex] and [itex] t_2 = \frac{x}{c(1- \epsilon )} [/itex], then to find [itex] \Delta t = t_1 - t_2 [/itex]

but I can't seem to get it , did I do this correctly?
Because ε is so small, you can approximate t2 well with a series expansion to first order.
 
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vela said:
Because ε is so small, you can approximate t2 well with a series expansion to first order.

so [itex] t_2= \frac{x}{c} \cdot (1- \epsilon )^{-1} = \frac{x}{c} \cdot (1) [/itex]

or, because that completely gets rid of [itex] \epsilon [/itex] :-

[itex] t_2= \frac{x}{c} \cdot (1- \epsilon )^{-1} = \frac{x}{c} \cdot (1+ \epsilon ) [/itex]

That after finding [itex] \Delta t [/itex] gave me and answer of [itex] -1.55 \cdot 10^{-12} s[/itex]

only problem is you have to find the time as being in the reference frame of the proton later and need [itex] t_2 [/itex].
 
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1. What is relativity and how does it apply to photons and protons?

Relativity is a theory proposed by Albert Einstein that explains the relationship between space and time. It states that the laws of physics are the same for all observers, regardless of their relative motion. This applies to photons and protons, as their motion and behavior are affected by the principles of relativity.

2. What is the difference between a photon and a proton?

A photon is a type of elementary particle that carries energy in the form of electromagnetic radiation, such as light. It has no mass and travels at the speed of light. On the other hand, a proton is a subatomic particle found in the nucleus of an atom. It has a positive charge and a relatively large mass compared to a photon.

3. How does relativity affect the behavior of photons and protons?

According to relativity, the speed of light is constant and the same for all observers. This means that the speed of a photon remains the same regardless of the observer's frame of reference. However, the speed of a proton can change depending on the observer's frame of reference. Additionally, relativity also affects the mass and energy of particles, including photons and protons.

4. Can photons and protons interact with each other?

Yes, photons and protons can interact with each other. For example, when light hits an object, the photons can be absorbed or reflected by the protons in the object's atoms. This interaction is what allows us to see objects and colors.

5. How do scientists use photons and protons in their research?

Scientists use photons and protons in various ways, such as in experiments to study the behavior of light and subatomic particles. Photons are also used in technologies such as lasers and solar panels. Protons, on the other hand, are used in medical imaging and particle accelerators to study the structure of matter.

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