Remote control of a Walker Scientific Magnet & Power Supply

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the use of a Walker Scientific power supply and magnet for low temperature experiments. Participants seek information on controlling the magnet remotely via the power supply, specifically regarding the external input voltage specifications. The conversation includes attempts to find manuals or specifications and explores various approaches to testing the equipment safely.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant is researching the use of a Walker Scientific power supply and magnet for low temperature experiments and seeks information on remote control capabilities.
  • Another suggests treating the external input as a black box and experimenting with low voltages to characterize its behavior.
  • Some participants express a preference for finding a user manual or datasheet rather than experimenting blindly.
  • There is a query about whether the output is DC or AC, along with a request for voltage and current specifications.
  • One participant found information indicating that the external input may be a 0-10V input controlling output current, suggesting that the unit might operate similarly.
  • A suggestion is made to create a dummy load to test the 0-10 VDC signal without risking damage to the magnet.
  • Several participants mention the difficulty in finding manuals or specifications online and suggest contacting sellers for assistance.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential dangers of experimenting with large electromagnets without proper guidance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need for caution and the importance of obtaining proper specifications or manuals. However, there are multiple competing views on how to approach the testing of the equipment, with some advocating for experimentation and others emphasizing the need for documentation.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the exact specifications of the external input and the output characteristics of the power supply. There are limitations in the available information, and some assumptions are made based on partial findings.

Who May Find This Useful

Researchers or practitioners working with older scientific equipment, particularly those interested in low temperature experiments or electromagnet control systems.

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Hello and good day.

I am currently involved in research that seeks to utilized a Walker Scientific power supply and magnetic. The system is old but functional. We seek to utilize the magnet in order to conduct some low temperature experiments. We need information on this power supply, of which we have very little info available. I have contacted relevant persons at Walker Scientific here in the U.S. However, I have yet to receive a follow response from them.

It's a very large, green power supply, whose model number is HS1365 4SS. Specifically, we would like to control this magnet remotely via it's power supply. This may be a long shot, but is there anyone here with such experience in utilizing large magnet system such as these. I would much appreciate any useful response.

We are looking at using the external input(Ext. Input) on the front control panel to achieve this, however we do not know what the input control voltage specifications are.

Anyone?
 

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If you can't find any specifications on the external input, you could try treating it as a black box and see what happens. What happens when you put 0 Volts across the external input? How about 0.1V? 0.5V? I can't see low voltages like these damaging the supply. Maybe you can characterize how it works. Just a guess, but one would think that the power supply current would be proportional to the external input voltage.
 
Thank you phyzguy. We thought about that, and if given no choice then we will do just that. But we would prefer to spend the majority of time we have, in doing experiments. Not that I think it would take a lot of time (maybe!). But I guess sometimes you don't have a choice.

Thanks again.
 
ajohns2000 said:
But I guess sometimes you don't have a choice.
I tried Googling for a User manual for the supply, but no luck so far. Have you been able to find anything? Even a datasheet or schematic would help...
 
BTW, is the output DC or AC? Do you have an idea of the range of voltages and currents that big thing can put out? That's a big magnet!
 
I found this on Google. Not exactly the same unit, but it says the External Input is a 0-10V input that controls the output current. I'm willing to bet the unit you have works the same way. Try what I said in Post #2.

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I have done the same. No luck with google. Output is D.C, 130 V, 65 A.
 

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This equipment seems to be relatively widely known, I could find several pieces available for sale. Maybe you can contact some sellers for a manual.
I suggest you not to start experiencing blindly. Big electromagnets can become really destructive if something is not up to manual.
 
phyzguy said:
I found this on Google. Not exactly the same unit, but it says the External Input is a 0-10V input that controls the output current. I'm willing to bet the unit you have works the same way. Try what I said in Post #2.

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O.K thank, much appreciated. Will have a go soon.
 
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Rive said:
This equipment seems to be relatively widely known, I could find several pieces available for sale. Maybe you can contact some sellers for a manual.
I suggest you not to start experiencing blindly. Big electromagnets can become really destructive if something is not up to manual.

We kind of know that. Gentle as we go. Thanks again.
 
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This is on the web page that bought Walker and LDJ: https://www.laboratorio.elettrofisico.com/laboratorio-elettrofisico-usa/
Although equipment is no longer manufactured under the Walker LDJ Scientific name, Laboratorio Elettrofisico continues to service magnetics equipment from Walker and LDJ Scientific. Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have any questions about your equipment or are interested in a current model.

The contact info on that page:
BRUCE PITTMAN
Sales Manager, USA
(248) 340 7040 ext. 2005 – Office
(248) 736 7876 – Mobile
b.pittman@elettrofisico.com

JACOB HOHNER
Measuring Services & Lab Manager, USA
(248) 340 7040 ext. 2002 – Office
(248) 770 1775 – Mobile
j.hohner@elettrofisico.com

___________
Laboratorio Elettrofisico USA, Inc.
40 Engelwood Dr., Suite H
Lake Orion, MI 48359
(248) 340-7040


Hope it helps.

Cheers,
Tom
 
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Tom.G said:
This is on the web page that bought Walker and LDJ: https://www.laboratorio.elettrofisico.com/laboratorio-elettrofisico-usa/
Although equipment is no longer manufactured under the Walker LDJ Scientific name, Laboratorio Elettrofisico continues to service magnetics equipment from Walker and LDJ Scientific. Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have any questions about your equipment or are interested in a current model.

The contact info on that page:
BRUCE PITTMAN
Sales Manager, USA
(248) 340 7040 ext. 2005 – Office
(248) 736 7876 – Mobile
b.pittman@elettrofisico.com

JACOB HOHNER
Measuring Services & Lab Manager, USA
(248) 340 7040 ext. 2002 – Office
(248) 770 1775 – Mobile
j.hohner@elettrofisico.com

___________
Laboratorio Elettrofisico USA, Inc.
40 Engelwood Dr., Suite H
Lake Orion, MI 48359
(248) 340-7040

Hope it helps.

Cheers,
Tom

Yes, we had gotten that already. But thank you nonetheless.
 
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To test whether 0-10 VDC signal varies output without risking the magnet make a dummy load. Perhaps you have stuff on hand to do it more cheaply, but full range could be checked using, for example, a bank of (6) 1500W/120V thermostatically controlled oil-filled heaters. Walmart sells them for less than $40/each.

One caveat - their thermostats aren't rated to switch DC current, but if you dial them to 100%, and limit test time so the heater don't get hot enough to require switching (in the 30 to 45 minute range) no damage will be done, and the heaters can be used later for their intended space heating purpose.
 
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Thanks. And thanks everyone. We'll consider and discuss this suggested approach.
 

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