News Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, 6 YTBN Shot, Killed In Tuscon AZ

[russ_watters]

I know it's old, but a quick clarification:

compelling a handwriting sample seems like a 5th violation

A handwriting sample is evidence, not testimony, so it is covered by the 4th amendment, not the 5th. So as long as it is reasonable to believe a person might be guilty, you can compel them to provide evidence, including from their person.

 

[Proton Soup]

I know it's old, but a quick clarification: A handwriting sample is evidence, not testimony, so it is covered by the 4th amendment, not the 5th. So as long as it is reasonable to believe a person might be guilty, you can compel them to provide evidence, including from their person.

i don't agree with it, but i see where you're coming from.


and speaking of giffords, I'm a little surprised no one has noticed what Jimmy Hoffa Jr said recently.

http://www.wmal.com/article.asp?id=2279665&SPID=28718

At a Labor Day rally in Detroit, Hoffa urged the President to use unions as his army to fight back against the Tea Party and "take these son-of-a-bitches out."

great, just what we need. a whole army of lone wolf terrorists going after candidates they don't like. if this were reversed, I'm sure there'd be a ton of righteous indignation here.