Resultant force after adding a force to a couple moment?

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The discussion centers on the dynamics of a stick leaning against a wall and the resultant forces acting on it due to a moment couple. It is established that while the moment couple forces cancel each other, the resultant force acting on the stick is indeed the wall's reaction force. This reaction force can cause the stick to accelerate, contradicting the initial assumption that the entire structure remains stationary. The key takeaway is that the contact force from the wall plays a crucial role in the stick's movement and acceleration.

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I don't get it.
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Imagine there is a stick leaning aganist a wall.
There is a moment couple somewhere on the stick.
The end of the stick hits the wall and the wall acts against it.

The sum of moment is 0 but since the moment couple forces cancel each other, the resultant force is the wall reaction force! which means the stick will move away from the wall!

But in reality i think the whole structure is stationary but not this!
 
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nomisme said:
the resultant force is the wall reaction force! which means the stick will move away from the wall!
Its center of mass will accelerate.

nomisme said:
But in reality i think the whole structure is stationary
What makes you think this?
 
nomisme said:
...the resultant force is the wall reaction force! which means the stick will move away from the wall!
If the stick moves away from the wall, the reaction force goes to zero. (At the point where the stick contacts the wall, the stick compresses the wall, and the wall compresses the end of the stick.)
 
David Lewis said:
If the stick moves away from the wall, the reaction force goes to zero.
At some time point it will lose contact, but it stays in contact for a while and the contact force accelerates it.
 
nomisme said:
…the moment couple forces cancel each other, the resultant force is the wall reaction force!
There is no net resultant linear force associated with couple itself. Linear forces cancel for a couple, so the applied load is a pure moment. The reaction force supplied by the wall creates a moment of force that is equal and opposite to the couple.
 
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David Lewis said:
There is no net resultant linear force.
Of course there is. It's equal to the contact force from the wall.

David Lewis said:
The reaction force supplied by the wall creates a moment of force that is equal and opposite to the couple.
There is no reason for these moments to be equal and opposite.
 
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