Resultant Force Due to Hydrostatic Pressure

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the resultant force due to hydrostatic pressure on a downward-facing isosceles triangular gate submerged in water. Participants explore the relationship between varying pressure with depth and the changing surface area of the gate, particularly in the context of a statics problem involving moments and integration techniques.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their understanding of hydrostatic pressure and expresses confusion regarding the calculation of resultant force on a triangular gate, noting that pressure increases with depth while the area decreases.
  • Another participant suggests a standard method of slicing the gate into horizontal sections to find the force on each slice and integrating to find the total force.
  • A participant acknowledges understanding the moment calculation but seeks clarification on how to conceptualize the relationship between varying pressure and area with depth.
  • There is a discussion about whether double integration is necessary due to the varying area and pressure, with a suggestion that it may only require a single integral since only one variable (depth) is involved.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the approach of integrating over slices of the gate, but there is uncertainty regarding the necessity of double integration and how to relate the varying area and pressure effectively.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of familiarity with integration techniques, particularly double integration, which may affect their understanding of the problem. The discussion does not resolve whether double integration is required.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students studying fluid mechanics, particularly those grappling with hydrostatic pressure calculations and integration methods in statics problems.

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I've got a question concerning the resultant force due to hydrostatic pressure. I understand how to calculate an object with uniform dimensions as depth (and pressure) increase. But I got thrown a serious curve ball on a Statics test.

The situation was such:

A downward facing isosceles triangular gate with base b and height a is hinged on the top at point O, which is a distance h below the surface of water. Calculate the force exerted on the back side of the gate to keep it closed.

I feel confident in finding the point that the resultant pressure force is applied at, but I got really confused because surface area of the gate is decreasing with depth while pressure is increasing with depth.

I see this equation here,
dp = \gammadh
Can I use this to find the magnitude of the resultant pressure force? I've got a final tomorrow and I feel that if only I could understand this one concept, I could work out the rest of my problems fairly easily. Thanks for any help.
 
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Hi MJay82! :smile:

Standard method: slice the gate into horizontal slices from depth h to h+dh, find the force on each slice, and integrate. :wink:

(and there's a hinge, so this is a rotational problem, so in this case you'd need the moment of the force on each slice, about the hinge)
 
Ok - that's what I thought would be going on, thanks for the speedy reply!
I should have mentioned that I did understand the moment part. Using the scalar moment calculation (force x perpendicular distance), finding the force necessary to keep the gate closed is a cinch.

Let's see if I can maybe more clearly articulate what is baffling me, because although your answer let's me know that I'm at least thinking correctly, I can't conceptualize the changes.

You've got a pressure which is varying with depth - increasing as depth increases. And you've got an area which is also varying with depth, but is decreasing as depth increases.

I'm not familiar with double integration yet - is this a problem that would call for such, or since area and pressure are both varying with respect to depth, is it just a matter of relating both area and pressure in terms of one variable?
 
MJay82 said:
I'm not familiar with double integration yet - is this a problem that would call for such, or since area and pressure are both varying with respect to depth, is it just a matter of relating both area and pressure in terms of one variable?

Forget about variables, just ask yourself how many d's are there? :wink:

In this case, there's only dh …

so you'll be summing over all the slices, which becomes a single integral ∫ … dh. :smile:

Just insert the moment of the force on the whole slice.

(If the pressure was also varying horizontally, then you'd need to slice-and-dice, and you'd have to sum over little squares of height dh and width dx … two d's, so a double integral. :wink:)
 

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