Rigid Body Mechanics - 2 or more bodies

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The discussion focuses on deriving equations of motion for two rigid bodies, one rotating and the other undergoing a combination of rotation and translation. A term multiplying angular velocity squared, referred to as C1, is identified as position-dependent and capable of changing signs, with units consistent with mass times length squared. The equations derived suggest a relationship to rotational kinetic energy, although there is uncertainty regarding its position dependence. The author has validated their results against established rigid body dynamics solvers, indicating confidence in the correctness of their equations of motion. Further details on the derivation process are suggested for additional clarity and assistance.
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When I derive the equations of motion for 2 or more bodies where one is rotating and the other is a mixture of rotation and translation, I get a term multiplying angular velocity squared. I know its right but I don't know what to call it. Can some help me with what to call it (it means C12 below)?After eliminating one of the constrained degrees of freedom, I get an ODE for the rotational degree of freedom:
sum of moments = Coefficient1*angularVelocity2+equavelentInertia*angularAcceleration
ΣM = C12 + Ieq

What's interesting about C1 is that it position dependent and it can flip signs. C1 has units of mass*length2 thus the units are consistent since ω has units of radians/sec.
 
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A priori, this looks like a term for rotational kinetic energy, with C1 related to the moment of inertia. I don't see why it is position dependent,. You should probably give some details of the derivation if you want to get help with this.
 
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member1 rotates around the z axis. member2 is constrained at one end to move vertically at distance of 80mm from the YZ plane. The two body are constrained to each other via a revolute joint. Solving the equations motion for one ODE in terms of the rotational displacement, velocity, and acceleration of member1 yields an equation that looks like:

$$\sum M = C_1(\beta')^2 + I_eq\beta''$$

##\beta## is the rotational position of member1. Both ##C_1## and ##I_{eq}## are a functions of position.

I am not convinced it is rotational energy. I have compared my results against Rigid Body Dynamics solver Recurdyn and Adams. I can match their answers so I am confident I have got the equations of motion correct.
 

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