Rigid body rotation near galactic center

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between centripetal acceleration and gravitational acceleration in the context of rigid body rotation near the galactic center. The original poster attempts to demonstrate that the rotation curve of a galaxy's central region aligns with rigid body rotation principles.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between mass and distance, questioning how mass M varies with radius r. The original poster expresses confusion about deriving a linear relationship between velocity v and radius r, while others suggest reconsidering the proportionality of mass.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants actively questioning assumptions about mass distribution and its implications for the relationship between velocity and radius. Some guidance has been offered regarding the exploration of different proportionalities, but no consensus has been reached.

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Participants are grappling with the implications of different assumptions about mass distribution, particularly whether mass M is proportional to r, r², or r³, and how these affect the desired relationship between velocity and radius.

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Homework Statement



Equate the expression for centripetal acceleration with the gravitational acceleration to show that the central parts of the galactic rotation curve are consistent with rigid body rotation.

The attempt at a solution
Say a star near the galactic center has mass m and the rest of the mass inside its orbit has mass M. Then:
F=ma=\frac{GMm}{r^2}
a=\frac{v^2}{r}
\frac{GM}{r^2}=\frac{v^2}{r}\Rightarrow{v^2} \propto{r}
But what I want to show is that v is proportional to r, not that v^2 is proportional to r. What have I done wrong?
 
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hi clandarkfire! :smile:

M is proportional to … ? :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
hi clandarkfire! :smile:

M is proportional to … ? :wink:

I'm actually not sure. If it's proportional to r (seems reasonable), I get G \propto {v^2}, which seems pretty nonsensical.
If it's r^2 or r^3, I still don't think I get r \propto v, which is what I'm looking for.
 
clandarkfire said:
I'm actually not sure. If it's proportional to r (seems reasonable), I get G \propto {v^2}, which seems pretty nonsensical.
If it's r^2 or r^3, I still don't think I get r \propto v, which is what I'm looking for.
Try r^3 again, and if it still fails please post your working.
 

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