Rope Climbing Device: Design, Speed & Overall Tips

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around designing a device that can climb a rope for a competition, focusing on design, speed, and overall effectiveness. Participants explore various design ideas, materials, and mechanisms suitable for a device that must ascend a height of 2 meters.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using toothed pinch rollers mounted on a toy car as a potential design.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need for the original poster to demonstrate effort before receiving help, indicating a preference for collaborative learning.
  • A participant proposes a design involving small gears that pinch the rope, driven by a motor, likening it to a can opener.
  • One suggestion involves using wound-up springs to drive the rollers, raising a question about sourcing such springs.
  • Another participant warns that gears may walk off the side of the rope and suggests using pulleys with semi-circular grooves instead.
  • There is a discussion about the possibility of using rubber bands as an alternative to springs for the design.
  • A participant raises a concern about the contest rules requiring the device to carry its own power source, which could affect design choices.
  • Another participant proposes a screw-like mechanism that fits around the rope, as well as a rack and pinion design with a pincher arm for climbing.
  • One creative idea involves using a helium balloon connected to the rope via a sliding stand-off pole.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of design ideas and approaches, with no consensus reached on a single solution. Multiple competing views and suggestions remain throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of adhering to contest rules regarding the power source, which may influence design decisions. There are also considerations regarding the mechanical stability of proposed designs, such as the tendency of gears to misalign.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in robotics, mechanical design, or engineering competitions may find the discussion relevant and insightful.

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Recently I entered a competition to join a club. The task is to make a "thing" that climbs a rope. The rope is about 1/2 a centimeter thick and it is graded on design, speed, and overall in general. I was wondering what might be a good design for this project and what materials I should use? It must climb up 2 meters.
 
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Toothed pinch rollers mounted on a toy car.
Do the club members know that you're cheating by asking us for help?
 
Timmy D said:
Recently I entered a competition to join a club. The task is to make a "thing" that climbs a rope. The rope is about 1/2 a centimeter thick and it is graded on design, speed, and overall in general. I was wondering what might be a good design for this project and what materials I should use? It must climb up 2 meters.

Welcome to the PF.

You need to show some effort on questions like this before we can offer much tutorial help. What are your thoughts so far?
 
Ooops! I didn't realize that this was a homework situation. Sorry.
 
Timmy D said:
Recently I entered a competition to join a club. The task is to make a "thing" that climbs a rope. The rope is about 1/2 a centimeter thick and it is graded on design, speed, and overall in general. I was wondering what might be a good design for this project and what materials I should use? It must climb up 2 meters.
if you give us a design we can suggest ways to improve it but we can't do all the work for you.
 
Sorry

Sorry about that, I completely forgot to include my design so far. Also, I am not cheating according to the club rules, I also want this to be a learning experience so I'm not asking for somebody to tell me everything. My design so far is having to small gears on either side of the rope pinch down and a motor forces them upward. This design is similar to a can opener in such that it has to gears that pinch together. My only problem is that the motors I have though about using are somewhat heavy comparatively and I was wondering if there would be an alternative I could use.
 
How about wound-up springs? You know exactly how many times each roller is going to have to go around so why not drive each one with a spring wound up that many turns (+ 1 or 2 more just in case)?
 
Thanks

I had never really took that into consideration, but that sounds like a great idea. I am just curious as to where you would buy "wind-up springs"?
 
Here's another thought... Gears biting into the rope will have a tendency to walk off the side of the rope. If you attempt to keep the rope centered with guides I suspect you will just jam the rope between the guides and the gears. Consider using pulleys with semi-circular grooves around the outside.
 
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mrspeedybob said:
Here's another thought... Gears biting into the rope will have a tendency to walk off the side of the rope.
That's why I suggested pinch rollers; this is what they're designed for.
 
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Timmy D said:
I had never really took that into consideration, but that sounds like a great idea. I am just curious as to where you would buy "wind-up springs"?
An alternative: Rubber bands that are wound around the axles of the pulleys, that pinch the rope.
 
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Do the contest rules say anything about the climber needing to carry its energy source? Don't want to see you get disqualified for using springs or rubber bands that you have to wind up by hand.
 
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Rules

The rules say that you must have the device carry its power source (i.e.: batteries) What I means is that you can't have a long cord with the batteries on a table below, they must be on the machine.
 
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Any size constraints? Can you make a device that's 2.1m tall that climbs up itself or just grabs on at 2.1m up and turns itself upside down :-)
 
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Use a screw like design. A female threaded cylinder that fits around the rope at the bottom, and screw your way up the rope! You'll have to creatively attach your motor and turn the device but I bet you could figure that out.

Another option I can think of off hand is a rack and pinion like device. Two alternating rack and pinions with a pincher arm you tighten at the end. Motor turns the pinion which pushes the rack upwards. Once at the peak a the pincher arm clamps around the rope you are climbing like a crab claw, the motor then changes direction and pulls the device up by climbing the now anchored rack. The other rack is attached to the motor as well, but timed opposite. This way as you are extending one rack, you are climbing the other rack... you would mostly just have to figure out how to close the pincher at the top of the rack!

Anyway, that's my $.02
 
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How about a helium balloon connected to the rope by a sliding stand-off pole?
 

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