Rotational Energy conservation

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving the conservation of rotational energy and kinetic energy in the context of a car's motion. The problem includes calculations related to the total kinetic energy of the car and its wheels, as well as the distance the car travels up an incline before stopping.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the total kinetic energy by combining rotational and linear kinetic energy formulas. They also explore the relationship between gravitational potential energy and kinetic energy to determine the stopping distance.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's calculations, questioning the negative result obtained for the distance traveled. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of trigonometric functions and the potential issue of calculator settings.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted assumption regarding the neglect of friction and the treatment of the wheels as homogeneous cylinders. Additionally, the original poster's calculations have led to confusion about the signs in their equations, particularly concerning the sine function of the incline angle.

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The four wheels of a car have each a mass of 25kg and a radius of 30cm. The car's mass is 1000kg. We neglect the losses due to friction. We assimilate the wheels to homogeneous cylinders.

a) What is the total kinetic energy of the car and the wheels if the speed of the car is 30m/s.

b) What distance will the car travel till it stops going up an incline of 10 degrees if the initial speed is of 30m/s?

For a I did,

Ktot = rotational kinetic energy + linear kinetic energy
= 1/2lw + 1/2mv^2
= (1/2)(4.5)(100)^2 + (1/2)(1100)(30)^2
= 518kJ

For b I thought I could just use "gravitational potential = rotational kinetic energy + linear kinetic energy"

h = xsin10
So mgx = rotational kinetic energy + linear kinetic energy
mgx = 518000
x = -89m

Obviously I did something wrong because I shouldn't be getting a minus...and on top of that I know the answer is 276m.

Any ideas on what I did wrong..or what I might of forgotten to do?
 
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How do you go from mgx = 518000 to a negative answer for x? You are approaching it correctly using energies...
 
Sorry, that should read mgxsin10 = 518000

sin10 gives -0.544 therefore giving me a negative answer.

Any idea on what I might of done wrong?!
 
The sin of 10 degrees is not negative. Is your calculator in radian mode maybe?
 
Oh geez...lol..I didn't realize I was in radians...

Thanks
 

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