Rotational Motion - Does a Body Rotate Forever After Torque is Applied?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the behavior of a rigid body after torque is applied and subsequently removed, specifically whether the body continues to rotate indefinitely. Participants explore concepts related to rotational motion, angular momentum, and the implications of applying and ceasing torque.

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  • Exploratory
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  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the body will continue to rotate indefinitely due to the conservation of rotational kinetic energy when no momentum is transferred to the system.
  • Others argue that without an applied force, the center of mass of the body cannot accelerate, suggesting that the rotational axis may not be centroidal.
  • One participant notes that a rigid body can rotate about any point with the same angular velocity, indicating that the center of mass can have a constant velocity in addition to its angular velocity after torque is removed.
  • A question is raised regarding whether this situation contradicts Newton's First Law, as the body appears to be accelerating without an applied force.
  • Another participant acknowledges a misunderstanding about radial acceleration and discusses the role of a fixed axis in maintaining rotation, questioning what happens if that axis is removed along with the torque.
  • A later reply emphasizes that the concept of a "rotation axis" is not fundamental in rigid body mechanics, focusing instead on angular and linear momentum and the conservation of angular momentum with respect to the center of mass.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether a body will continue to rotate indefinitely after torque is stopped, with no consensus reached on the implications of these dynamics.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of definitions and the role of external forces in determining the motion of the center of mass and angular momentum, indicating that assumptions about the system's constraints are crucial to the discussion.

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This is the doubt that troubled me when the chapter of rotational motion started. If torque is applied on a body for sometime and then the torque is stopped, then will the body continue to rotate for ever?

Yes - coz the rotational Kinetic energy Iw^2 must be conserved since no mommentum is transferred to the system.

No - coz there is no force for the centre of mass of the body to accelerate. I mean in the given condition it could be that rotational axis is not a centroidal one.
 
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Remember that a rigid body can be regarded as rotating about ANY of its constituent points with the the same angular velocity as about any other point.
Thus, when the applied torque stops, and the rotation axis does not go through C.M (i.e, non-zero C.M-velocity), it just means that your body will have a non-zero C.M (constant) velocity in addition to its constant angular velocity.
Its kinetic energy will be: [tex]\frac{1}{2}(mv_{C.M}^{2}+I_{C.M}\omega^{2})[/tex]
 
Then doesn't that oppose Newton's First law of motion as the body is accelerating and no force being applied on it?
 
Whenever did it's C.M ever accelerate after the torque stops?
 
I am talking about the radial acceleration. But now I pointed out the defect. Yes your points helped me a lot. The axis which could be external and fixed applies a normal force on the object which leads it to be in rotation. If such an axis does not exist then the object would decide to rotate on centre. Now another doubt -

What would happen if such a fixed axis on which the body is rotating is removed, alongwith stopping to apply torque?
 
Remember that the concept of "rotation axis" isn't a fundamental concept in rigid body mechanics; in contrast to angular velocity and C.M velocity (not to mention the concepts of angular&linear momentum).

Don't bother about it overmuch.

Just a correction to my former post:
If no external forces acts upon a body, then its angular momentum with respect to its C.M remains constant, and we should perhaps better write the rotational part of the body's kinetic energy as [itex]\frac{1}{2}{\vec{S}}\cdot\vec{\omega}[/itex] where [itex]\vec{S}[/itex] denotes the angular momentum
Thus, since the C.M. velocity is constant as well, it follows that conservation of energy yields [itex]\vec{S}\cdot\frac{d\vec{\omega}}{dt}=0[/itex],
i.e, the angular velocity itself is allowed to change by an addition of a vectorial component orthogonal to the angular momentum.
 
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