Rotational Velocity with 2 Gears

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves the rotational dynamics of two gears, focusing on the angular velocity of a small gear when a force is applied, and the relationship to a larger gear engaged with it. The context includes concepts of torque, moment of inertia, and angular acceleration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of force and its relation to angular acceleration, questioning the assumptions about net forces and the distribution of acceleration across the gear's mass. There are attempts to connect torque and moment of inertia to derive angular velocity.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on relating torque to angular acceleration and have confirmed that the approach to use rotational kinematic equations is appropriate. Multiple interpretations of the problem setup are being explored, particularly regarding the forces acting on the gear.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of potential missing information regarding the net forces acting on the gear and the implications of the axle's role in the system. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the correct application of equations and assumptions in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement


A small gear with mass m and radius r rotate around a central axis. A force is applied to an interior hub at a radial distance r/2 from the axis.
A. If a force of 4N is applied for 10s, what is the angular velocity of the small gear, assuming it starts at rest?
B. Once it reaches this speed, the small gear is engaged with a larger gear next to it, of mass 4m and radius 4r. If the angular speed of the small gear is maintained, what is the angular velocity of the larger gear, assuming no slipping?

Homework Equations


F=MAt
R x alpha= At
omega= omega initial + alpha x T
I=1/2 MR^2

The Attempt at a Solution


For the first piece, I tried to answer it by setting up F=MAt as 4=MAt and At=r x alpha, and then setting them equal and solving for omega, and then plugging them into omega= omega initial + alpha x T. I feel like this isn't correct and that it is leaving out some key pieces. Any help is appreciated.
 
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I assume At stands for tangential acceleration. Fnet=ma is a standard enough equation, but the applied force is not the net force in this case. There is also a force from the axle, holding the centre of the gear in place. Besides, not all of the gear's mass has the same linear acceleration. Think about moments and torque instead.
 
So, I can relate the moment of inertia to torque through the following:
T= R x F= 4 x R/2 = 2R
I= 1/2mR^2
So, since T=I x alpha --> 2R=1/2mR^2 x alpha

Is this in the right direction? I'm not exactly sure how to get to velocity from here. Should I isolate for alpha and use one of the rotational kinematic equations?
 
PrettyLights said:
So, I can relate the moment of inertia to torque through the following:
T= R x F= 4 x R/2 = 2R
I= 1/2mR^2
So, since T=I x alpha --> 2R=1/2mR^2 x alpha

Is this in the right direction? I'm not exactly sure how to get to velocity from here. Should I isolate for alpha and use one of the rotational kinematic equations?
Yes, that's right so far.
You get angular velocity and displacement from angular acceleration and time in just the same way that you do for linear velocities, accelerations and displacements.
 
Gotcha- so, alpha=4/mR and (4/mR)x10= 40/mR

Thank you!
 

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