Same number of roots for derivative as function

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The discussion revolves around finding a function f(x) that has exactly two real roots, while its derivative f'(x) also possesses exactly two real roots. A key insight shared is that if a function has n roots, its derivative must have at least n-1 roots. Participants suggest sketching a graph to visualize the function and recommend using piecewise definitions to ensure continuity in both the function and its derivative.

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Homework Statement



Provide an example of a function such that f(x) has two and only two real roots and f'(x) has two and only two real roots, where f is defined for all real numbers and differentiable everywhere on its domain.

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The Attempt at a Solution



I know that if a function has n roots, it's derivative has to have at least n-1 roots. But I can't for the life of me visualize a function that would have two zeroes and have it's derivative also have exactly two zeroes. If anyone could give me a hint I'd be super thankful.

I don't know if this is enough of an attempt within the community guidelines but I'm really stuck.
 
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Persimmon said:

Homework Statement



Provide an example of a function such that f(x) has two and only two real roots and f'(x) has two and only two real roots, where f is defined for all real numbers and differentiable everywhere on its domain.

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I know that if a function has n roots, it's derivative has to have at least n-1 roots. But I can't for the life of me visualize a function that would have two zeroes and have it's derivative also have exactly two zeroes. If anyone could give me a hint I'd be super thankful.

I don't know if this is enough of an attempt within the community guidelines but I'm really stuck.

Did you try to sketch a graph that works? I don't think that's so hard. Once you've got that, if you are having a hard time writing an explicit function that looks like that you could always resort to defining it piecewise, as long as the function and the derivative are continuous where the pieces join up.
 
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Thanks, it seems really obvious to me now. D'oh!
 

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