Sampling Continuous-Time Signal

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The discussion revolves around the sampling of a continuous-time signal and the application of Fourier transforms in the context of digital signal processing. Participants explore the properties of the ideal low-pass filter, the implications of sampling periods, and the Fourier transform of time-shifted signals.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the dimensionality of frequencies wa1, wa2, and wa3, suggesting they should be expressed in rad/sec rather than 1/s.
  • Another participant clarifies that while angular frequency is dimensionless, it is common to use [rad/s] for clarity, but [1/s] is also acceptable.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about finding the Fourier transform (FT) of a time-shifted term and refers to the time-shifting property of the Fourier transform.
  • One participant provides the time-shifting property from their book, suggesting the FT of a time-shifted term would be $$e^{\pm jw(\frac{\pi}{2}+\theta)} F(jw)$$.
  • Another participant acknowledges a mistake regarding the Fourier transform definition and discusses the need for a scaling factor in the unitary definition.
  • A later reply raises a question about the implications of the filter cutoff frequency and the lowest signal frequency, challenging how frequencies could pass through the ideal low-pass filter under certain conditions.

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Participants express differing views on the dimensionality of frequency units and the application of the Fourier transform properties. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of the filter cutoff and the behavior of the signal frequencies.

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There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of frequency and the conditions under which the ideal low-pass filter operates, particularly in relation to the lowest signal frequency and the sampling process.

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This my homework:
Input signal to system is:

t1.png


where

t2.png


t3.png


H(exp(jw)) is transfer function of ideal low pass filter with cutoff frequency wg=3*pi/4 and zero phase characteristic. Sampling in A/D converter is done with period T=(1/125) seconds.
a) Calculate output signal ya(t)
b) Calculate sampling period T for ya(t)=xa(t)First thing: they said that wa1, wa2 and wa3 have dimension 1/s. Is that mistake? I think that it should be rad/sec.
I recently started studying digital signal processing and I'm not so good yet but here are my thoughts. I know that A/D sampling period tells us that every T seconds A/D converter will take value from input time signal.
Frequency of sampling would be (1/T) [Hz] and it must be at least two times bigger than biggest frequency in input signal. Ideal low pass filter will pass only signals with frequencies lower than cutoff frequency
I know that I should first find amplitude spectrum of input signal using Fourier transform but I don't know how to find x(n). Here is how I would find FT of input signal. We can write last term of xa(t) as $$\sin (wa3t+(\frac{\pi}{2}+\theta))$$ Fourier transform of sine wave $$A\sin (w_0t)$$ is $$Aj\pi[\delta(w+w_0)-\delta(w-w_0)]$$, So FT of first term of $$x_a(t)$$ will be $$1j\pi[\delta(w+w_{a1})-\delta(w-w_{a1})]$$, FT of second term $$(1/2)j\pi[\delta(w+w_{a2})-\delta(w-w_{a2})]$$. What would be FT for third term, since it is time shifted?
 
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This would be (hopefully) amplitude spectrum of first and second term of input signal:

t4.png
 
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mickonk said:
First thing: they said that wa1, wa2 and wa3 have dimension 1/s. Is that mistake? I think that it should be rad/sec.
An angle in radians is a dimensionless quantity, so, strictly speaking, it's correct to use the unit hertz [1/s] for both frequency and angular frequency. We usually make it explicit, though, by using [rad/s] for angular frequency to avoid any confusion.

mickonk said:
What would be FT for third term, since it is time shifted?
Try going through your transform table again (Google one if you need to) - the translation/shifting property of the Fourier transform should be included in just about any of them.
 
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Hi milesyoung.
That's FT pair from my book. Is it wrong?
I found time shifting property in my book: if function is $$f(t\pm t_0)$$, FT is $$e^{\pm jw_0t_0}F(jw)$$. So FT of time shifted term would be $$e^{\pm jw(\frac{\pi}{2}+\theta)} F(jw) $$, right?
 
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mickonk said:
That's FT pair from my book. Is it wrong?
No, sorry, that was my mistake. I'm used to the unitary definition of the Fourier transform, so when I skimmed over it, I just noticed the lack of a scaling factor.

mickonk said:
FT is $$e^{\pm jw_0t_0}F(jw)$$
You probably mean ##F(\omega)##.

mickonk said:
So FT of time shifted term would be $$e^{\pm jw(\frac{\pi}{2}+\theta)} F(jw) $$, right?
Not quite for your function, but it's not something you have to do from scratch. See here:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Waves/Fourier_Transforms#Fourier_Transform_Pairs
 
If the filter cuts off at w = 3π/4 and the lowest signal frequency is w = 100π, and sampling does not generate frequencies below the signal frequency, then how can anything get past the ideal low-pass filter?
 

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