Scalar Equation of Plane: x+y+z=4

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The problem involves determining the scalar equation of a plane that contains the line of intersection of two given planes, specifically x+y+z=4 and y+z=2, while also being two units away from the origin.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss finding a point of intersection (POI) by setting y=0, leading to the point (2,0,2). They also explore the direction of the intersecting line using the cross product of the normal vectors of the two planes.
  • There is a consideration of multiple solutions due to the nature of planes being able to rotate around the line of intersection while maintaining a distance from the origin.
  • One participant questions how to find the scalar equations of the planes that meet the criteria.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and questioning the implications of multiple planes. Some guidance is provided regarding the relationship between the normal vector and the direction of the line, but no consensus or resolution has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the planes must be tangent to a sphere of radius two around the origin, which introduces additional constraints to the problem.

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Homework Statement


Determine the scalar equation of the plane that contains the line of the intersection of the planes x+y+z=4 and y+z=2, if the plane is two units from the origin.


Homework Equations


direction of intersecting line is M = N1 × N1


The Attempt at a Solution


Let y= 0, find a POI of two planes
x=2, z=2
Therefore one POI is (2,0,2)
Direction of Line is M = N1 × N1 = [1,1,1] × [0,1,1]


Would there not be multiple solutions to this problem because there are multiple of planes that can be rotated around the line of intersection that are all two units from the origin?
 
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Gorby said:

Homework Statement


Determine the scalar equation of the plane that contains the line of the intersection of the planes x+y+z=4 and y+z=2, if the plane is two units from the origin.


Homework Equations


direction of intersecting line is M = N1 × N1


The Attempt at a Solution


Let y= 0, find a POI of two planes
x=2, z=2
Therefore one POI is (2,0,2)
Direction of Line is M = N1 × N1 = [1,1,1] × [0,1,1]


Would there not be multiple solutions to this problem because there are multiple of planes that can be rotated around the line of intersection that are all two units from the origin?

If by "multiple of planes" you mean as many as two I think I would agree. They would have to be tangent to a sphere of radius two around the origin.
 
How would I find the scalar equations of those planes?
 
Gorby said:

Homework Statement


Determine the scalar equation of the plane that contains the line of the intersection of the planes x+y+z=4 and y+z=2, if the plane is two units from the origin.


Homework Equations


direction of intersecting line is M = N1 × N1


The Attempt at a Solution


Let y= 0, find a POI of two planes
x=2, z=2
Therefore one POI is (2,0,2)
Direction of Line is M = N1 × N1 = [1,1,1] × [0,1,1]

So M = ?? Don't expect us to do the work for you.

LCKurtz said:
If by "multiple of planes" you mean as many as two I think I would agree. They would have to be tangent to a sphere of radius two around the origin.

Gorby said:
How would I find the scalar equations of those planes?

Well, once you know M, you know the normal vector to those planes must be perpendicular to M. So what must the normals look like? Once you know that you can use the normals and the point (2,0,2) to write their equations.
 

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