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The discussion centers around the Gilcrease Museum's extensive collection, which includes nearly 29,000 items related to North American history and art. Participants express interest in the ongoing debate regarding the first settlers of North America, noting that the previously accepted Clovis culture is now being challenged by evidence of pre-Clovis populations. Some suggest that these early inhabitants may have arrived by sailing along the west coast, while others point to findings in South America and potential European influences on tool-making techniques. The conversation highlights the complexities of understanding early American settlement, with genetic studies and archaeological discoveries continuing to shape the narrative. The uncertainty surrounding these origins remains a captivating topic for those interested in anthropology and history.
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More art than history. They say 12,000 BC but I couldn't find anything. AFAIK the question of American settlement is still not finally answered. There are some conflicting hypothesis, especially with findings in South America, but as well some evidence, that flintstones found had more in common with early European techniques than with the Clovis. And there is evidence for earlier findings than the Bering Strait bridge would have allowed. Sorry, if that was a distracting commentary, but I find the question about the first immigrants extremely exciting.
 
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More art than history. They say 12,000 BC but I couldn't find anything. AFAIK the question of American settlement is still not finally answered. There are some conflicting hypothesis, especially with findings in South America, but as well some evidence, that flintstones found had more in common with early European techniques than with the Clovis. And there is evidence for earlier findings than the Bering Strait bridge would have allowed. Sorry, if that was a distracting commentary, but I find the question about the first immigrants extremely exciting.
Yes, there has been a lot of controversy over the first people to settle North America. Clovis was long thought to be the first but now seems to have been overturned.
 
Here is an article on recent findings about pre-Clovis people who probably got south by sailing down the west coast.
 
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Here is an article on recent findings about pre-Clovis people who probably got south by sailing down the west coast.
Paywall for me. The difficulty with too pre-Clovis is I think the missing land bridge in the Bering Strait.

I have seen a South American (I think it was a Chilean) anthropologist who favors the idea of polynesian first settlers, at least in South America. And IIRC the genes of todays Indian civilizations in the north fit better to Siberian populations than South East Asian. And the flintstone fabric found in the US might indicate an early European influence, which was proposed by an American anthropologist. That is pretty far fetched, but not impossible. We simply assume they couldn't sail such distances. It could explain the eastern settlers while North America was buried beneath an ice shield.

I guess we'll have to wait until mitDNA investigations tell us the whole story, if it is one story at all, and not two or three. Until then it's a big mystery.
 
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Paywall for me.
Opps, thought it wasn't for some reason.
Its about an inland finding, up the Columbia river, that predates clovis and has different style tools.
 
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