Second moment of area, storing of energy.

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The discussion revolves around the concept of the second moment of area and its relation to energy storage in materials, particularly in the context of linear elasticity and the stress-strain relationship described by Hooke's law. Participants explore the mathematical underpinnings of energy proportionality to strain and the integration of forces to derive potential energy.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the restoring stress in a beam is proportional to the strain, referencing Hooke's law, and questions why energy is proportional to the square of the strain.
  • Another participant suggests calculating the work required to produce a given strain as a means to understand the energy relationship.
  • A participant seeks clarification on the integration of Hooke's law in relation to potential energy, specifically questioning the difference in approach compared to gravitational potential energy.
  • Further elaboration is provided on the integration of forces to derive potential energy for both spring and gravitational contexts, emphasizing the work done in each case.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion contains multiple viewpoints regarding the integration of forces and the relationship between strain and energy. There is no consensus on the reasoning behind the proportionality of energy to strain or the integration methods used for different types of potential energy.

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Participants reference specific mathematical relationships and integration techniques without resolving the underlying assumptions or the applicability of these methods across different contexts.

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I want to point out that this is not a Homework or Coursework question. in wiki we can read the following under the chapter intution:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_moment_of_area

Assuming linear elasticity, the restoring stress that any point in the beam will provide, is proportional to the strain it experiences. This stress-strain relationship can be described by Hooke's law. The energy will be proportional to the square of the strain.

So can anyone explain why the energy is proportional to the square of the strain.

/Thank you
 
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Try calculating the work required to produce a given strain. See: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/pespr.html"
 
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Thank you!

But why do you integrate hooks law when you do not integrate potential energy; m*g*h?
 
Pellefant said:
But why do you integrate hooks law when you do not integrate potential energy; m*g*h?
The potential energy is found by calculating the work done in both cases.

For spring potential energy you integrate the spring force (kx) over the distance; for gravitational potential energy you integrate the gravitational force (mg) over the distance. That's where m*g*h comes from.
 

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