Second Quantization: Motivation & Field Operators

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The discussion centers around the motivation for using second quantization and the application of field operators in quantum mechanics. Participants explore the theoretical implications and practical uses of second quantization, particularly in the context of particle creation and annihilation, as well as its role in quantum statistical mechanics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that second quantization is mathematically equivalent to the Schrödinger equation in non-relativistic quantum mechanics, emphasizing its utility in describing particles as Fourier modes that can be created and destroyed.
  • Others argue that the framework of non-relativistic quantum mechanics is inadequate for describing processes like electron-positron annihilation, necessitating the use of second quantization.
  • It is proposed that second quantization serves as a mathematical tool to express many-particle wave functions in symmetric or antisymmetric forms, aligning with Bose-Einstein and Fermi-Dirac statistics.
  • Some participants contest the terminology of "second quantization," asserting that there is only "quantization," which involves transitioning from classical to quantum observables.
  • A viewpoint is presented that regards second quantization as a mathematical trick, particularly in the context of calculating occupation numbers.
  • One participant mentions that second quantization is fundamental for understanding quantum statistical mechanics, where it simplifies many concepts, despite some disagreement on the terminology used.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the nature and terminology of second quantization, with no clear consensus on its definition or significance. Some agree on its utility in specific contexts, while others challenge its conceptual framework.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the definitions and assumptions underlying the concept of second quantization, as well as the implications of its terminology.

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What is the motivation of using Second Quantization ?
What kind of situation does people want to use field operators ?
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In non-relativistic quantum mechanics, second quantization is mathematically equivalent to the Schroedinger equation. Take a lattice of atoms and write the Schroedinger equation. Second quantization essentially just taking the Fourier transform, and the "particles" are Fourier modes. Since it is natural for Fourier modes to be created and destroyed, these are useful for describing "particles" which are created and destroyed. In the relativistic case, one postulates the second quantized version directly without an underlying lattice.
 
The framework of non-rel. QM based on the Schroedinger equation is not suitabe for the description of creation and annihilation of particles, e.g. electron - positron annihilation (and production of two photons). In order to achieve that one needs 'second quantization'
 
In non-relativistic QM, second quantization is a mathematical trick useful to write many-particle wave functions in a symmetric (Bose-Einstein statistics) or antisymmetric (Fermi-Dirac statistic) form automatically.
 
There's no <second> quantization, there's only <quantization> which means passing from classical Hamiltonian observables to quantum counterparts where they exist and are uniquely defined (Groeneveld-van Hove problem).
 
Calculating Occupation Numbers. It's a math trick at best.
 
dextercioby said:
There's no <second> quantization, there's only <quantization> which means passing from classical Hamiltonian observables to quantum counterparts where they exist and are uniquely defined (Groeneveld-van Hove problem).

Meaning you can either see it as a one time thing (and then face the question, why stop there?), or (the way I prefer it) as defining an induction step and then worry about howto interpret that tower of turtles.

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/nth_quantization.html contains some interesting ponderings.

/Fredrik
 
Euphemia said:
What is the motivation of using Second Quantization ?
What kind of situation does people want to use field operators ?

It is very basic for an understanding of quantum statistical mechanics, where almost everything gets much simpler in the second quantization formulation using fields.

Some people don't like the terminology, but it is very standard.
(But one should not imagine that it is literally a quantization of something already quantized.)
 

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