Selection of DC motors for EV and controlling them

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the selection and control of DC motors for a small electric vehicle (EV). Participants explore the design of an H-bridge controller for torque management of multiple permanent magnet brush DC motors, focusing on power requirements, torque specifications, and cost-effective solutions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Dave seeks guidance on designing an H-bridge controller for 6-8 DC motors, requiring a power range of 70 to 250 W and a torque of around 20 N-m.
  • Some participants suggest that an H-bridge is only necessary for reversing motor rotation and recommend exploring pulse width modulation (PWM) for torque control.
  • Dave specifies a need for controlling torque for smaller motors, proposing a torque of 5 N-m for each motor and expressing space constraints for individual H-bridge controllers.
  • There is a suggestion to control multiple motors with a single H-bridge to minimize space and cost.
  • A link to a resource on H-bridge design is provided, but its relevance to the specific needs of the discussion is uncertain.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity and configuration of H-bridges for torque control, indicating that there is no consensus on the best approach for controlling multiple motors in parallel.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the specifics of torque control methods or the implications of using a single H-bridge for multiple motors, leaving open questions regarding the effectiveness and practicality of proposed solutions.

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Individuals interested in electric vehicle design, motor control systems, and cost-effective engineering solutions may find this discussion relevant.

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Hi, I am designing a small EV and I am looking forward to some guidlines regarding designing of H-bridge (torque) controller for controlling somewhat in between 6-8 permanent magnet brush DC motors , the overall power required from these motors is between 70 to 250 W, where 70 W is for propelling EV on normal surface and 250 W for peak/climbing uphill requirements.

Could you please suggest me the cheapest controlling design for such operation like
a) which type(with particular specs) of the bunch of small pmdc motors best fit for such operation (here the torque requirement is around 20 N-m) and i want to run all motors (say parallel combination) with a constant speed and controlled torque(preferable). The supply is 12V from batteries.
b) How to design and what is the best and the cheapest torque controlling method of these motors using H-bridge (like providing a common reference or say separate torque control of each motor and providing those with a common reference), the types of Mosfets and the heat sinks. Keeping in mind the availability in the market and the price factor too.

If you have any questions regarding this please ask me. All suggestions and ideas are welcome. Any help would be of great help!

Thanks!
Dave
 
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You only need an H-bridge if you want to reverse motor rotation.
Pulse width modulation is probably what you need to look up for torque control.

If you're looking for motors to meet your specs you might try Digikey.com or Jameco.com.
 
Thanks for the help No Time.

Well I am particularly looking for controlling the torque of bunch of small DC motors operating in parallel, with a torque of say 5N-m for each small motor.

I am also looking for some idea to control these motors using Hbridges in the cheapest and non bulkier way as i don't have much space to afford Hbridge controller for each motor separately or to provide torque reference separately to each motos, looking for something like controlling say 2 motors with a common Hbridge or something like that...


Thanks!
 

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