Sensitivity of lock-in amplifier

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The discussion revolves around the definition of sensitivity in the context of lock-in amplifiers, exploring its implications and related concepts. Participants share their understanding and seek clarity on the term, which is often associated with phase-sensitive detection.

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  • One participant questions the exact definition of sensitivity for a lock-in amplifier, noting that information is difficult to find online.
  • Another participant suggests that sensitivity could be defined as the ratio of the minimum usable signal to noise ratio, although they express uncertainty about this definition.
  • A third participant clarifies that the ratio mentioned by the second participant is actually the traditional definition of dynamical reserve, which compares the largest tolerable noise signal to the full-scale signal.
  • This same participant references an equation from an "extended" manual, indicating that sensitivity is related to the amplification factor of the input signal.
  • Further, they speculate that sensitivity might be defined as the inverse of the gain applied to the input signal, although they acknowledge that this is based on intuition rather than established consensus.
  • Another participant expresses a lack of expertise in lock-in amplifiers but shares a reference to a datasheet that provides specific amplification values, suggesting that there may be more authoritative sources available.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the definition of sensitivity, with multiple interpretations and uncertainties expressed throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the term "sensitivity" may not have a universally accepted definition, leading to varied interpretations based on individual intuition and experience.

freddyfish
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Hey

I have a quick question whose answer is well-hidden on google since the key word of the search attempts is sensitivity, which of course returns results about phase-sensitive detection, and seemingly phase-sensitive detection only... My question is what the exact definition of the sensitivity of a lock-in amplifier is.

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A question well phrased is half answered.
And I'm not sure I know either what would be meant by "sensitivity" of a lock-in amplifier.

They have an ability to recover a weak signal out of strong noise. Probably a practical definition would be an approximate ratio of the minimum useable signal to noise ratio, but I'm kinda guessing.

Since a lock-in amplifier is effectively multiplying two signals, and how well that works depends on the phase between them, they employ "Phase Locking" to optimize.
And that's not a straightforward subject.

Try searching on terms"PLL capture ratio"

and peruse this practical article:
http://www.bentham.co.uk/pdf/F225.pdf

maybe you'll elaborate on where you ran across the term.
 
There is plenty (and very good) information about lock-in amplifiers, so I have read my fair share. Therefore I have got an intuition what the sensitivity of the lock-in amplifier would specify, but this wasn't enough for a reliable conclusion.

Your guess makes sense, but the ratio mentioned is actually the traditional definition of dynamical reserve, which is the ratio of the largest tolerable noise signal to the full-scale signal.

Back to the question. I found an "extended" manual where the following were presented:

Vout = 10A_e(A_vV_icosØ+Vos) {if the output is X}

where...
A_e= 1 or 10 per the Expand
A_v= 1/Sensitivity
V_i= magnitude of the signal
Ø = phase between signal & reference
V_os = offset (fraction of FS < 1.024)

:smile:
 
freddyfish said:
There is plenty (and very good) information about lock-in amplifiers, so I have read my fair share. Therefore I have got an intuition what the sensitivity of the lock-in amplifier would specify, but this wasn't enough for a reliable conclusion.

Your guess makes sense, but the ratio mentioned is actually the traditional definition of dynamical reserve, which is the ratio of the largest tolerable noise signal to the full-scale signal.

Back to the question. I found an "extended" manual where the following were presented:

Vout = 10A_e(A_vV_icosØ+Vos) {if the output is X}

where...
A_e= 1 or 10 per the Expand
A_v= 1/Sensitivity
V_i= magnitude of the signal
Ø = phase between signal & reference
V_os = offset (fraction of FS < 1.024)

:smile:

Intuition usually gets one close -- even if pointed in wrong direction !

Where there's not a universally accepted term for something, authors will often use what is intuitive to them. Is this an old reference, perhaps from 60's ?

Looking at your equation, my intuition tells me the author uses A_v for "Amplification(of) Voltage"

which is a term I used to run across way back when... it meant simply Voltage Gain.
The product of V_i and reference is product of their magnitudes X cos(angle)
i'll guess V_i is multiplied by A_v before arrival at the multiplier
and magnitude of reference is accounted for by A_e

So, 'sensitivity' to that author is simply: 1/(gain applied to input signal)

but that's just what feels intuitive to me.

I'm not well versed in lock-in amps as you have doubtless discerned.
My 'Rock of Ages' for this subject is the AD630 datasheet. It provides precise A_v of 1, 2, 3 or 4 before presentation to multiplier..

http://www.analog.com/static/imported-files/data_sheets/AD630.pdf

that's my best stab at it - doubtless there's somebody here more expert.

old jim
 

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