Series Help: Finding ∫qk(x)dx for k = 2,6,10,14 in Approximating ∫sin(x^2)dx

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The discussion revolves around finding the integral of a function represented as a series, specifically ∫qk(x) dx for k = 2, 6, 10, and 14, in the context of approximating ∫sin(x^2) dx over the interval from 0 to 1. Participants are exploring how to derive the first four non-zero terms of the series related to this integral.

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  • Participants discuss how to incorporate the variable k into their calculations and relate it to the Taylor series expansion of sin(x). There is an attempt to clarify the meaning of qk and its connection to the terms being integrated. Some participants express confusion regarding the definition of qk and whether it refers to individual terms or a sum of terms.

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Several participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing their thoughts on the series expansion for sin(x^2) and the integration of its terms. There is a recognition of the relationship between the powers of x and the values of k, but uncertainty remains regarding the definition of qk. Guidance has been offered regarding the series expansion, yet no consensus has been reached on the interpretation of qk.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. The discussion reflects a need for clarity on the definitions and relationships within the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


Find ∫qk(x) dx where the upper bound is 1 and the lower bound is 0. g is some function and we are finding for k = 2,6,10 and 14, hence the first four non-zero terms of a series that can be used to calculate approximations to I = ∫sin(x^2) dx were the upper bound is 1 and the lower bound is 0.

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The Attempt at a Solution


I am struggling to figure out how to incorporate k and get the terms we are after like in a Taylor Polynomial, but what I got so far is q/2 but that's assuming that q is just a constant. I'm stuck.
 

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Grew Gore said:

Homework Statement


Find ∫qk(x) dx where the upper bound is 1 and the lower bound is 0. g is some function and we are finding for k = 2,6,10 and 14, hence the first four non-zero terms of a series that can be used to calculate approximations to I = ∫sin(x^2) dx were the upper bound is 1 and the lower bound is 0.

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The Attempt at a Solution


I am struggling to figure out how to incorporate k and get the terms we are after like in a Taylor Polynomial, but what I got so far is q/2 but that's assuming that q is just a constant. I'm stuck.

I would start by writing the first four nonzero terms of the series for ##\sin x##. Then replace ##x## by ##x^2##. Then you might see where the values of ##k## come from and be on your way.
 
LCKurtz said:
I would start by writing the first four nonzero terms of the series for ##\sin x##. Then replace ##x## by ##x^2##. Then you might see where the values of ##k## come from and be on your way.

Ok thanks. So the series for sin(x^2) is x^2 - (x^6)/3! + (x^10)/5! - (x^14)/7! + ...
And when its asks to find ∫qk(x) dx for 2, is that just the integral of x^2 which is (x^3)/3, and the integral of (x^6)/3! which is (x^7)/42

I see how the powers relate to the k values, but am unsure what the q is about. I'm sorry if I'm asking too much, just really need to get this done.
 
Grew Gore said:
Ok thanks. So the series for sin(x^2) is x^2 - (x^6)/3! + (x^10)/5! - (x^14)/7! + ...
And when its asks to find ∫qk(x) dx for 2, is that just the integral of x^2 which is (x^3)/3, and the integral of (x^6)/3! which is (x^7)/42

I see how the powers relate to the k values, but am unsure what the q is about. I'm sorry if I'm asking too much, just really need to get this done.
The ##q_k##'s are just names for the four terms you are integrating. They have been named by their exponents. ##q_2(x) = \frac{x^2}{1}##, etc... If you had expanded ##\sin(x^2)## by its Taylor series the long way, the ##k## values would be the usual subscripts for the nonzero terms you get.
 
Grew Gore said:
Ok thanks. So the series for sin(x^2) is x^2 - (x^6)/3! + (x^10)/5! - (x^14)/7! + ...
And when its asks to find ∫qk(x) dx for 2, is that just the integral of x^2 which is (x^3)/3, and the integral of (x^6)/3! which is (x^7)/42

I see how the powers relate to the k values, but am unsure what the q is about. I'm sorry if I'm asking too much, just really need to get this done.

It is not clear from what you wrote whether ##q_k = (-1)^k x^{k}/k!## of if ##q_k = \sum_{j=0,2, \ldots k} (-1)^j x^j/j!.## In other words, is ##q_k## the ##k##th term, or is it the ##k##th partial sum?
 

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