Set Theory Proof Homework: Can You Help?

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The discussion revolves around a proof related to set theory, specifically focusing on the relationships between sets A and B, including operations like union and set difference. Participants are examining the logical structure of a proof presented in a PDF document.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are discussing the use of deMorgan's Laws and the "choose-an-element method" for proving set relationships. Some express uncertainty about the correctness of their approaches and seek feedback on their reasoning.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of different proof strategies, including direct proofs versus contradiction. Some participants are questioning the complexity of their methods and seeking simpler alternatives, while others are attempting to clarify their understanding of specific statements and their proofs.

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Participants mention constraints such as the preference for certain proof techniques and the need for clarity in logical reasoning. There is also an acknowledgment of potential confusion regarding the definitions and operations involved in set theory.

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Homework Statement



Homework Statement are located in the pdf below. I also upload the file onto an online viewer for pdf

for those people who are afraid to download attachments.

Here is the link: http://view.samurajdata.se/psview.php?id=c1f5a372&page=1

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The Attempt at a Solution



The attempt at a solution is located in the pdf below.

Here is the link again for those who do not wish to download the file: http://view.samurajdata.se/psview.php?id=c1f5a372&page=1

Can anyone see if I did anything wrong in the proof? I am not talking about the format of the proof, just the underlying logic. Thanks!
 

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If you can use deMorgan's Laws, this can be done quite a bit shorter.

[tex]B - A = B \cap A^C[/tex]

So
[tex]A \cup (B - A) = A \cup (B \cap A^C) = (A \cup B) \cap (A \cup A^C)[/tex]

The latter expression is just U, the universal set.
 
Mark44 said:
If you can use deMorgan's Laws, this can be done quite a bit shorter.

[tex]B - A = B \cap A^C[/tex]

So
[tex]A \cup (B - A) = A \cup (B \cap A^C) = (A \cup B) \cap (A \cup A^C)[/tex]

The latter expression is just U, the universal set.

Yes, I know that. I should have mentioned it before hand that I wanted to use the "choose-an-element method" to prove it rather than algebraic manipulation. Other than that, do you think that there was anything wrong with my proof in the pdf?
 
IMO, you are overcomplicating things by using contradiction proofs. Why don't you just prove the two statements directly?
 
Mark44 said:
IMO, you are overcomplicating things by using contradiction proofs. Why don't you just prove the two statements directly?

To be honest, I do not really know how to prove one of the statements.

That is, A + B is a subset of A + (B - A).

The plus signs means "union."

Attempt:

1) Let x be in A + B.
2) We can say x is in A or x is in B.
3) If x is in A, then x is in A + (B - A).
4) If x is in B, then x is B and x can either be in A or not in A.
5) If x is in B and x is in A, then x is in A + (B - A).
6) If x is in B and x is not in A, then x is in (B - A).

I do not even know if I got it right...
 
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number0 said:
To be honest, I do not really know how to prove one of the statements.

That is, A + B is a subset of A + (B - A).
How about writing the expression on the right as
[tex]B \cap A^C[/tex]

number0 said:
The plus signs means "union."

Attempt:

1) Let x be in A + B.
2) We can say x is in A or x is in B.
x could be in both sets, if it is in their intersection.

Look at three different cases:
1) x is in A but not in B.
2) x is in B but not in A.
3) x is in [itex]A \cap B[/itex].

For each case, show that x is also in A U (B - A).
number0 said:
3) If x is in A, then x is in A + (B - A).
4) If x is in B, then x is B and x can either be in A or not in A.
5) If x is in B and x is in A, then x is in A + (B - A).
6) If x is in B and x is not in A, then x is in (B - A).

I do not even know if I got it right...
 

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