Several Differential Equation problems

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The discussion revolves around several initial value problems (IVPs) involving differential equations, including a first-order equation and a second-order linear homogeneous equation. Participants are exploring the existence of solutions and the methods for solving these equations.

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  • Participants discuss the setup and attempts at solving the IVPs, including integration techniques and the application of initial conditions. Questions arise regarding the correctness of the solutions and the methods used, particularly in integrating certain expressions.

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Some participants have provided feedback on the attempts, suggesting areas for clarification and improvement. There is ongoing exploration of integration techniques and the implications of using different notations. Multiple interpretations of the problems are being considered, and guidance has been offered regarding specific integration steps.

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Participants express uncertainty about their integration skills and the correctness of their solutions, indicating a potential gap in foundational knowledge. There are references to previous calculus coursework and the challenges faced in applying those concepts to the current problems.

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  1. Homework Statement


    Solve the IVP and find the interval in which the solution exists
    y'=2ty2, y(0)=y0>0

    Homework Equations





    The Attempt at a Solution



    y'=2ty2
    y'/y2=2t
    \inty-2y'=\int2t
    -1/y=t2+c\Rightarrow c = -1/y0
    and therefore y= -1/(t^2-1/y_0)

    So it appears that the interval is all real excluding when t2=1/y0. Is this correct?

  2. Homework Statement


    A tank contains 100 gallons of water and 50 oz of salt. Water containing a salt concentration of .25(1+.5sint) oz/gal flows into the tank at a rate of 2 gal/min, and the mixture in the tank flows out at the same rate. Find the amount of salt in the tank at any given time.

    Homework Equations


    I set up the eq. like so:
    dQ/dt=r_1a+Qr_2/100 where r1 is rate in, r2 is rate out, and a is the concentration of salt coming in.

    The Attempt at a Solution


    Q'-2/100Q = .5(1+.5sin(t)) ; u = e-t/50
    (uQ)' = u(.5+.25sin(t))
    uQ=\int.5+.25sin(t)
    uQ = .5t+1/8sin(t2)+c
    Q = et/50(.5t+1/8sin(t2)+c) ; c = 50 (from IC)
    and therefore
    Q = et/50(.5t+1/8sin(t2)+50)


  3. Sorry guys, one more if you will.

    Homework Statement



    Find the solution of the IVP:
    y''+y'+y=0, y(o)=1, y'(0)=-1

    Homework Equations





    The Attempt at a Solution


    -1/2 \pm (\sqrt{1^2-4(1)(1)})/2
    -.5 \pm \sqrt{3/2}i ; let \mu = \sqrt{3/2}
    y=c_1 e^{(-t/2)}cos(\mu t)+c_2 e^{(-t/2)}sin(\mu t)
    y(0)=1=c_1cos(0)+c_2sin(0)=1\Rightarrow c_1=1
    y'=-\mu sin(\mu t)e^{(-t/2)}-.5e^{(-t/2)}cos(\mu t)+c_2 \mu cos(\mut)e^{(-t/2)}-.4e^{(-t/2)}sin(\mu t)
    y'(0)=-1=-1/2+\mu c_2 \Rightarrow c_2=-.5/\mu
    y=e^{(-t/2)}cos(\mu t)+c_2e^{(-t/2)}sin(\mu t) where c2 is defined above


Thanks a lot for your time. I would really appreciate any replies as to the correctness of the solution, or of I made some mistakes where they might be and how I might go about fixing them. Hopefully I didn't butcher the formatting :).
 
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  1. Homework Statement


    Solve the IVP and find the interval in which the solution exists
    y'=2ty2, y(0)=y0>0

    Homework Equations





    The Attempt at a Solution



    y'=2ty2
    y'/y2=2t
    \inty-2y'=\int2t
    -1/y=t2+c\Rightarrow c = -1/y0
    and therefore y= -1/(t^2-1/y_0)

    So it appears that the interval is all real excluding when t2=1/y0. Is this correct?

  1. Looks good!

    [*]

    Homework Statement


    A tank contains 100 gallons of water and 50 oz of salt. Water containing a salt concentration of .25(1+.5sint) oz/gal flows into the tank at a rate of 2 gal/min, and the mixture in the tank flows out at the same rate. Find the amount of salt in the tank at any given time.

    Homework Equations


    I set up the eq. like so:
    dQ/dt=r_1a+Qr_2/100 where r1 is rate in, r2 is rate out, and a is the concentration of salt coming in.

    The Attempt at a Solution


    Q'-2/100Q = .5(1+.5sin(t)) ; u = e-t/50
    (uQ)' = u(.5+.25sin(t))
    uQ=\int.5+.25sin(t)
    What happened to the "u" on the right hand side? Shouldn't this be
    uQ= \int e^{-t/50}(.5+ .25 sin(t))dt

    uQ = .5t+1/8sin(t2)+c
    Q = et/50(.5t+1/8sin(t2)+c) ; c = 50 (from IC)
    and therefore
    Q = et/50(.5t+1/8sin(t2)+50)
    [*]

    Sorry guys, one more if you will.

    Homework Statement



    Find the solution of the IVP:
    y''+y'+y=0, y(o)=1, y'(0)=-1

    Homework Equations





    The Attempt at a Solution


    -1/2 \pm (\sqrt{1^2-4(1)(1)})/2
    -.5 \pm \sqrt{3/2}i ; let \mu = \sqrt{3/2}
    y=c_1 e^{(-t/2)}cos(\mu t)+c_2 e^{(-t/2)}sin(\mu t)
    y(0)=1=c_1cos(0)+c_2sin(0)=1\Rightarrow c_1=1
    y'=-\mu sin(\mu t)e^{(-t/2)}-.5e^{(-t/2)}cos(\mu t)+c_2 \mu cos(\mut)e^{(-t/2)}-.4e^{(-t/2)}sin(\mu t)
    y'(0)=-1=-1/2+\mu c_2 \Rightarrow c_2=-.5/\mu
    y=e^{(-t/2)}cos(\mu t)+c_2e^{(-t/2)}sin(\mu t) where c2 is defined above
    Yes but I don't see anything good accomplished by using \mu rather than \sqrt{3}/2. In particular, using \sqrt{3}/2 makes it clearer that C_2= 1/\sqrt{3}= \sqrt{3}/3.

Thanks a lot for your time. I would really appreciate any replies as to the correctness of the solution, or of I made some mistakes where they might be and how I might go about fixing them. Hopefully I didn't butcher the formatting :).
 
Thanks for the fast reply.

In question 2 though.. I have no idea how to integrate that though :(. It's been a long while since I've taken my calc classes. Any ideas?

In question 3, I just used mu because it was easier to write. Quick question though.. c_2=-1/ \sqrt{3} should be c_2=- \sqrt { 3 } /3 right?
 
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Nok1 said:
Thanks for the fast reply.

In question 2 though.. I have no idea how to integrate that though :(. It's been a long while since I've taken my calc classes. Any ideas?
Do you mean
uQ= \int e^{-t/50}(.5+ .25 sin(t))dt?

separate it into
.5\int e^(t/50)dt<br /> which is easy and<br /> .25\int e^{-t/50}sin(t)dt<br /> Use integration by parts for that- you will have use integration by parts <b>twice</b>.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> In question 3, I just used mu because it was easier to write. Quick question though.. c_2=-1/ \sqrt{3} should be c_2=- \sqrt { 3 } /3 right? </div> </div> </blockquote> Yes, I accidently dropped the "-".
 
Alright, so doing the integration here's what I get:
  1. 1/2\int e^{-t/50}sin(t)dt

  2. u=e^{-t/50},du=-1/50e^{-t/50},dv=sin(t)dt,v=-cos(t)
    1/2\int e^{-t/50}sin(t)dt=1/2(-e^{-t/50}cos(t)-\int 1/50e^{-t/50}cos(t)dt

  3. u=1/50e^{-t/50},du=-1/2500e^{-t/50}dt,dv=cos(t)dt, v=sin(t)
    1/2e^{-t/50}sin(t)dt=1/2[-e^{-t/50}cos(t)-(1/50e^{-t/50}sin(t)+ \int 1/2500e^{-t/50}sin(t)dt)]
  4. \int e^{-t/50}sin(t)dt=-e^{-t/50}cos(t)-1/50e^{-t/50}sin(t)-1/2500\int e^{-t/50}sin(t)dt
  5. 0=-e^{-t/50}cos(t)-1/50e^{-t/50}sin(t)-1/2500\int e^{-t/50}sin(t)dt-\int e^{-t/50}sin(t)dt
  6. e^{-t/50}cos(t)+1/50e^{-t/50}sin(t)=\int e^{-t/50}sin(t)dt [-1/2500-1]

  7. \frac{e^{-t/50}cos(t)+1/50e^{-t/50}sin(t)+C}{-1/2500-1}=\int e^{-t/50}sin(t)dt

Before I go back and plug this back in, hopefully someone can verify that I did this correctly. Thanks again for everyone's time.
 
Bump.

Still awaiting further guidance, thank you.
 

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