Shear Stress in Beams - Full Working, getting wrong

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of shear stress in beams, specifically addressing a problem from a physics or engineering context. Participants are examining the working steps provided for a specific question, identifying potential errors in the calculations related to shear force and shear stress.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents their calculations for shear stress, indicating a result of 2.32 MPa, while noting that the expected minimum shear force is 48.4 MPa.
  • Another participant suggests that the error lies in using the wrong thickness for the calculation, specifically confusing the flange width with the web thickness.
  • A different participant reiterates the previous point about the incorrect thickness used in the calculations.
  • One participant points out that shear force is not measured in Pascals but in Newtons, implying a misunderstanding in the units used in the calculations.
  • The same participant emphasizes that the calculation should focus on shear stress rather than shear force.

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Participants express disagreement regarding the calculations presented, with multiple viewpoints on the errors identified. There is no consensus on the correct approach or resolution of the problem.

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Participants have not resolved the mathematical steps involved in the calculations, and there are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of shear force and shear stress.

smr101
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Hi,

I'm doing question (c)(ii) in the image below, full working is provided below:

(c)(i) is 150kPa.

I = bh^3/12 - 2 * bh^3/12
(0.25 * 0.256^3)/12 - (2* (0.119 * 0.22^3)/12)
= 1.3831 x 10^-4 m^4

Q = y*A
= 0.119 * 0.018 * 0.250
= 5.355 x 10^-4 m^3

shear force = (150000 * 5.355 x 10^-4)/(1.3831 x 10^-4 * 0.25)
= 2.32 MPa

I know that the solution is shear force minimum = 48.4 MPa.

Where have I gone wrong?

Thanks!

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looks like you used the wrong thickness when calculating the min shear stress in the web (you used the flange width in error)
 
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PhanthomJay said:
looks like you used the wrong thickness when calculating the min shear stress in the web (you used the flange width in error)

That's it, thanks.
 
smr101 said:
Hi,

I'm doing question (c)(ii) in the image below, full working is provided below:

(c)(i) is 150kPa.

Shear force is not measured in Pascals. It is measured in Newtons.
I = bh^3/12 - 2 * bh^3/12
(0.25 * 0.256^3)/12 - (2* (0.119 * 0.22^3)/12)
= 1.3831 x 10^-4 m^4

Q = y*A
= 0.119 * 0.018 * 0.250
= 5.355 x 10^-4 m^3
shear force = (150000 * 5.355 x 10^-4)/(1.3831 x 10^-4 * 0.25)
= 2.32 MPa
You're supposed to be calculating shear stress here.
I know that the solution is shear force minimum = 48.4 MPa.

Where have I gone wrong?

Thanks!

tH66f.jpg
 

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