Should Europe unite further?

[Andy]

Origionally posted by Clausius 2
Man, the union of Europe must be consolidated upon the fact that nobody could do what he want. That's the democracy.

Sounds more like communism than democracy to me.

 

[Andy]

I have just read in the Sun newspaper, a leading tabloid newspaper in britain, that as part of the EU constitution all member states will give up there foreign embassies and europe will just have one embassy with an ambassador that will report directly to the EU in brussels. Also they point out that Britain will its voice in NATO and will no longer have a seat on the UN security council. Please tell me again why this is a good thing?

 

[Clausius2]

Sounds more like communism than democracy to me.

Be sure I am too far of communism. Could you kill a boy in your country only because you want to do it? Sure not. That kind of common rules is what I am referring to, and the respect to them is one of the pillars of the democracy.

Please tell me again why this is a good thing?

I have not read the constitution, and I don't feel like to do it. Maybe that's a bad thing, but it is the most common way to go to vote. Perhaps that thing could be attenuated by another positive three ones.

 

[brewnog]

I have just read in the Sun newspaper...

So it must be true then!

 

[Andy]

lol yea, they where referring to a radio interview the spanish prime minister gave.

Origionally posted by Clausius
I have not read the constitution, and I don't feel like to do it. Maybe that's a bad thing, but it is the most common way to go to vote. Perhaps that thing could be attenuated by another positive three ones.

So your going to vote yes on something without actually knowing what that is? Always read the smallprint before you sign for anything.

 

[brewnog]

I think his point was that most people don't care enough about the ins and outs of the issue to research it properly, but these people will still go to the polling station just to make their voice heard.

 

[meteor]

Spain voted yes
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4280841.stm
Though I didn't vote (when will be possible to vote through Internet?)

 

[Clausius2]

Spain voted yes (77%). But pay attention to the low percentage which turned out: 42%.

In fact nobody has read the Constitution, Andy. Who has time to do it?

Although we went to vote as blinds, we voted according to <how> the idea sounds.

To those who have a referendum in his countries, I invite them to post here what happens after it. Here, the two main parties are fighting between them trying to clear up who has the blame for the low turnout percentage. So that, now we have an added problem.

 

[Andy]

a lot of ideas sound good at the time.