Should I take Calc III (multi-variable) in high school?

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The discussion centers around the decision of whether a high school student should take Calculus III (multivariable calculus) at a satellite college, particularly in the context of preparing for admission to Purdue University’s physics honors and mathematics programs. Participants explore the implications of this choice on the student's academic trajectory and college application.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confidence in passing the Calculus BC exam and considers taking Calc III and possibly partial differential equations (PDEs) at a satellite college, questioning if it would enhance their application to Purdue.
  • Another participant encourages taking Calc III, emphasizing the need for a background in ordinary differential equations (ODEs) before tackling PDEs.
  • Some participants suggest that a solid understanding of single-variable calculus is crucial before advancing to multivariable calculus, with one noting that honors courses typically do not expect prior multivariable experience.
  • There is a consensus that learning the material thoroughly is more important than rushing through it, with participants advising caution and consideration of the learning environment in honors programs.
  • One participant mentions that taking courses at the satellite college could allow for credit transfer, but also suggests retaking them in the honors program for a better educational experience.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of a solid foundation in calculus and the potential benefits of taking courses in an honors program. However, there are differing opinions on whether taking Calc III early is advisable, with some advocating for it and others suggesting waiting for the honors program.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the importance of a good background in basic Euclidean geometry and the potential challenges of transitioning to more abstract mathematical concepts. There is also mention of the varying expectations in honors courses regarding prior knowledge.

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High school students considering advanced mathematics courses, educators advising students on course selection, and individuals interested in the admissions process for competitive university programs may find this discussion relevant.

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I am currently enrolled in Calculus AB and am going to take the Calculus BC exam. I taught myself most topics in single variable calc over the summer so I am very confident that I can pass the BC exam.

Provided I do, I would have the opportunity the take Calc III (and possibly partial diff equations) at a satellite college in my city. If I am wanting to go to Purdue University and enroll in their physics honors program and mathematics program. Is taking Calc III at a separate college a worth wild choice (the credits could transfer to Purdue)? I have heard conflicting opinions. Will it make my application stand out in a good way compared to others?

Thanks!
 
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I would go for it.
As for the partial differential equations, you need ordinary differential equations first as you constantly use them in PDEs.

Good luck!

P.S. Calc BC covers taylor series, power series, infinite sums, improper integrals, trig subs, etc. so make sure you review these topics before the exam (since you're in calc AB you won't be reviewing those topics in class)
 
rebat said:
I am currently enrolled in Calculus AB and am going to take the Calculus BC exam. I taught myself most topics in single variable calc over the summer so I am very confident that I can pass the BC exam.

Provided I do, I would have the opportunity the take Calc III (and possibly partial diff equations) at a satellite college in my city. If I am wanting to go to Purdue University and enroll in their physics honors program and mathematics program. Is taking Calc III at a separate college a worth wild choice (the credits could transfer to Purdue)? I have heard conflicting opinions. Will it make my application stand out in a good way compared to others?

Thanks!

Hey rebat and welcome to the forums.

Do you have a good background on basic Euclidean Geometry?

Also I think for PDE's as another posted suggested, you should do a normal DE course first before you do PDE's.

With regards to honors courses, most that I have seen often start with Multivariable calculus and linear algebra in their first year and don't expect the students to have done the multivariable stuff before (they expect that they have a solid single variable calculus history though).

It's more important that you learn the stuff properly rather than quickly. Math has a habit of taking a little while to settle in the mind before you really understand it and this becomes more evident as you go up the abstraction food chain.

I guess though if you feel confident, you could take it and if you get credit, then you could substitute that course for another math or other course, but if I was to give advice I would say to wait until you get into an honors program and take it from that professor especially if they have a separate course for honors students, since the benefit will be having a professor that will give you more insight and who will push you that little bit more as well as having other students with similar traits to yourself in your class: that is the real benefit of being in an honors class: it is not the material per se, it is the other things like the environment that make it good for the students.
 
PDEs sounds a bit advanced. You definitely want to do regular DEs first.

It's more important that you learn the stuff properly rather than quickly.
ditto 100%

As for Multivariable, I'd say that if you want to be a mathematician, a good base of rigorous calculus from a book like apostol could be good. However I don't think you'll have any trouble in multivariable. If you want to learn the math, go for it. You can always place out of the Purdue course if you want.
 
chiro said:
Hey rebat and welcome to the forums.
Thanks!
chiro said:
Also I think for PDE's as another posted suggested, you should do a normal DE course first before you do PDE's.
Ok, I may have got there courses mixed up :redface:
chiro said:
but if I was to give advice I would say to wait until you get into an honors program and take it from that professor especially if they have a separate course for honors students, since the benefit will be having a professor that will give you more insight and who will push you that little bit more as well as having other students with similar traits to yourself in your class: that is the real benefit of being in an honors class: it is not the material per se, it is the other things like the environment that make it good for the students.
Thats probably what I will do; I will take the classes in high school but retake them in the honors program(the classes at the satalite are cheap :!)).

Thanks for the advice!
 

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