Should the Geneva Conventions Apply to This War?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the applicability and adherence to the Geneva Conventions in the context of an ongoing war, examining ethical considerations, the responsibilities of nations, and the behavior of combatants. Participants explore the implications of these conventions on both sides of the conflict, questioning the fairness of holding one party accountable when the other may not comply.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that the purpose of the Geneva Conventions is to ensure humane treatment for all, regardless of the enemy's actions, while others question the fairness of scrutinizing the US for violations when the opposing side does not uphold the conventions.
  • There is a viewpoint that the Geneva Conventions should be upheld in all conflicts, regardless of the enemy's compliance, as a matter of principle.
  • Participants discuss the ethical implications of adhering to the conventions, suggesting that doing so is a moral obligation that transcends tactical considerations.
  • Some argue that the conventions are designed to protect civilians by imposing restrictions on both attacking and defending forces, while others emphasize that the conventions should not be ignored even if the enemy does not comply.
  • Concerns are raised about public perception and the moral high ground, with some participants noting that a significant portion of the population questions the US's adherence to these standards.
  • There are claims regarding specific violations attributed to both the US and insurgent forces, with participants debating the severity and implications of these actions.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the effectiveness of the Geneva Conventions in practice, suggesting that they are often disregarded in wartime.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion contains multiple competing views regarding the applicability and enforcement of the Geneva Conventions, with no clear consensus on whether the US should be held to the same standards as its enemies or the implications of doing so.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference historical contexts and previous conflicts, suggesting that perceptions of compliance and accountability may be influenced by past actions and the nature of warfare. There are also mentions of differing public opinions on the war and the moral responsibilities of nations involved.

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I've often voted for third-party candidates in the past and I think they add an important element to political dialogues, but I don't think we should completely demonize the two-party system. If every party was on equal footing, then we could end up with twenty or so relatively fringe parties, all catering to a particular special interest, perhaps even "one-issue" parties we have seen pop up in the past. You also have the obvious possibility, really a likelihood under such a system, that a president could be elected with as little as 20% or less of the popular vote. Such a president would not only be hard-pressed to accomplish anything with a congress likely made up of very divergent interests, but he/she would not be an accurate reflection of the American voting public. At least under the two-party system, each party is forced to turn somewhat to the middle and appeal to as large a number of people as is possible.

Yeah, it has its pros and cons. If the field fragmented too much that would likely be the worst case scenario, having at least 3 parties would give you an argumentation with other sides than "yes/no", "on/off" etc. (even though it would then probably be "don't know").
 

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